Using Signal groups for activism
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Signal still centrally collects metadata and requires a phone number to participate.
If you're serious about privacy, ESPECIALLY if you're part of a group looking to organize in a clandestine fashion, you should look into the vastly superior SimpleX Chat.
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Signal still centrally collects metadata and requires a phone number to participate.
If you're serious about privacy, ESPECIALLY if you're part of a group looking to organize in a clandestine fashion, you should look into the vastly superior SimpleX Chat.
Signal collects your IP address and the last IP address you sent a message to. They store that info to maintain their services. They also store your phone number, either of which can be tied back to your identity (in the US, don't @ me, friends from across the pond).
The only thing these reveal is that you use Signal, which is currently still legal. Also, even if a judge ordered Signal to collect outgoing messages for your user, the content of your messages would already be encrypted. So unless your use of the service could be construed as illegal (or perhaps who you're talking to), then it's probably still safe to use.
However, all that said, I still agree that SimpleX is a better choice for activism. No phone numbers or other useful identifiers, uses a series of nodes rather than a central server, expiring contact-adding codes, etc... it's simply better, if you need privacy against external threats.
And there's no reason you can't have both on your phone for different kinds of groups!
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Signal still centrally collects metadata and requires a phone number to participate.
If you're serious about privacy, ESPECIALLY if you're part of a group looking to organize in a clandestine fashion, you should look into the vastly superior SimpleX Chat.
They dropped the phone number requirement a while ago
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Signal collects your IP address and the last IP address you sent a message to. They store that info to maintain their services. They also store your phone number, either of which can be tied back to your identity (in the US, don't @ me, friends from across the pond).
The only thing these reveal is that you use Signal, which is currently still legal. Also, even if a judge ordered Signal to collect outgoing messages for your user, the content of your messages would already be encrypted. So unless your use of the service could be construed as illegal (or perhaps who you're talking to), then it's probably still safe to use.
However, all that said, I still agree that SimpleX is a better choice for activism. No phone numbers or other useful identifiers, uses a series of nodes rather than a central server, expiring contact-adding codes, etc... it's simply better, if you need privacy against external threats.
And there's no reason you can't have both on your phone for different kinds of groups!
can you show evidence for this?
The best choice for activism right now is signal and has been for years. The best choice isn't necessarily the most hardened app or messaging system, it's the most hardened balanced against ease of use and access, along with features.
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can you show evidence for this?
The best choice for activism right now is signal and has been for years. The best choice isn't necessarily the most hardened app or messaging system, it's the most hardened balanced against ease of use and access, along with features.
Evidence for what?
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Evidence for what?
The claim being made?
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Signal still centrally collects metadata and requires a phone number to participate.
If you're serious about privacy, ESPECIALLY if you're part of a group looking to organize in a clandestine fashion, you should look into the vastly superior SimpleX Chat.
SimpleX is run by a Trump apologist and "white genocide" believer who believes the protests are fake and/or literally Stalin.
Edit: "all child abuse is horrible. But..." Evgeny is especially concerned about "genocide of young white girls" specifically, wondering "can Elon Musk help?"
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The claim being made?
I promise I'm not being pedantic. Which claim? I made at least two.
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Use Walkie talkies with a voice changer and coded phrases
No Imeis, no way to track you. Just don't transmit near your house.
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They dropped the phone number requirement a while ago
you mean, you don't need one for registration?
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can you show evidence for this?
The best choice for activism right now is signal and has been for years. The best choice isn't necessarily the most hardened app or messaging system, it's the most hardened balanced against ease of use and access, along with features.
It's been proven in court several times. The only information they keep is your phone number, unix timestamp of your account creation, and the unix timestamp of when you were last online.
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It's been proven in court several times. The only information they keep is your phone number, unix timestamp of your account creation, and the unix timestamp of when you were last online.
Which is not the claim OP made.
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Which is not the claim OP made.
Which claim are you referring to?
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Which claim are you referring to?
Signal collects your IP address and the last IP address you sent a message to.
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Signal collects your IP address and the last IP address you sent a message to.
Yeah, they likely misremembered that it was timestamps instead of IPs.
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Yeah, they likely misremembered that it was timestamps instead of IPs.
I mean its the principal claim.
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SimpleX is run by a Trump apologist and "white genocide" believer who believes the protests are fake and/or literally Stalin.
Edit: "all child abuse is horrible. But..." Evgeny is especially concerned about "genocide of young white girls" specifically, wondering "can Elon Musk help?"
Can all of this compromise the SimpleX protocol in any way?
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I mean its the principal claim.
I'd say that the principal claim is that they can't see your messages and that they have no incriminating data on you. No judge can order them to hand over your data and incriminate you because they don't have that data. What exactly is the very little data they have is less important.
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Use Walkie talkies with a voice changer and coded phrases
No Imeis, no way to track you. Just don't transmit near your house.
Very insecure. Vulnerable to MITM, jamming, etc.
