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  • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

    Hey everyone

    We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

    What you need to know

    As of now:

    • New user registrations are disabled
    • Creating new communities is disabled

    What you should do:

    • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
    • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
    • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
    • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

    Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

    Why this is happening

    The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

    The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


    We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

    – lemm.ee team

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    wrote on last edited by
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    • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

      For lemm.ee users who will be migrating to new instances: You can export your subscriptions and blocks to import them to your new instance! You can export that info in your profile settings panel, and import it from the same page on your new instance.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #35

      Thank God I don't have to reblock all the furry communities.

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      • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

        why are comments even disabled in the first place?

        sortekanin@feddit.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
        sortekanin@feddit.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on last edited by
        #36

        ... They are literally saying they don't have admins/mods enough. You want to strain your mods? Allowing comments on that sort of post is how you do that.

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        • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

          cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

          Hey everyone

          We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

          What you need to know

          As of now:

          • New user registrations are disabled
          • Creating new communities is disabled

          What you should do:

          • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
          • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
          • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
          • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

          Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

          Why this is happening

          The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

          The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


          We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

          – lemm.ee team

          s08nlql9@lemm.eeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #37

          Big thanks to lemm.ee, great job to the whole team

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          • C [email protected]

            Yes, actually. I probably could have stepped up to be an admin, but tbh, my plate is already overfull.

            sortekanin@feddit.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote on last edited by
            #38

            Yes, actually.

            Link? Just out of curiosity.

            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 1 Reply Last reply
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            • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

              cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

              Hey everyone

              We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

              What you need to know

              As of now:

              • New user registrations are disabled
              • Creating new communities is disabled

              What you should do:

              • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
              • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
              • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
              • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

              Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

              Why this is happening

              The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

              The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


              We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

              – lemm.ee team

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              wrote on last edited by
              #39

              My 2nd cake day was going to be a few days after shutdown 😞

              Lemm.ee was a fantastic instance, it will be greatly missed. Huge thanks to the admins and owner that made it happen for so long.

              A shame the communities will be lost in the transition, the movies/television communities are genuinely cursed. This is the 4th or 5th time people moved that community.

              I guess now would be a good time to give Piefed another shot. I love Lemmy and all, but new features have stalled for too long and I'm ready for some change.

              So long, lemm.ee

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              • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                why are comments even disabled in the first place?

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                wrote on last edited by
                #40

                Probably because if they were enabled it would be filled with people soapboxing about their irrelevant hobbyhorses or offering to help just to keep the instance alive. Neither are useful or relevant. If people wanted the instance to survive then they should have been volunteering months ago, not at 11:59 on the Doomsday Clock.

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                • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                  Censorship kills another server. rip.

                  there needs to be less of it and more discussion. if someone posts something you dont like, ignore and downvote it and move on. i rather be allowed to read the other sides comments than not at all.

                  why even are lemmy servers so overmoderated, jts not like we get flooded with users. whats more important, the fediverse success or thay you can ban another user because he doesnt fully support and yield to the current thing?

                  it seems the issue wasnt the server cost that will shut down lemm.ee.

                  im sick of mods. nobody likes mods!

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #41

                  Found the guy who's never moderated a large community. It's not discussions with opposing viewpoints, it's ad spam, harassment, CSAM, gore, literal neo-nazis, and once in a while someone spamming racial slurs.

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                  • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

                    Holy shit, that was unexpected.

                    johnnyenzyme@lemm.eeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    It really wasn't, sadly.

                    The site founder put in an incredible amount of work setting the place up (something like 10 support servers at US$200/mo), but also tried to be lead admin for a year+, and that's typically an extremely tough double-job to do well on a big, popular site / place. In his various posts he sometimes talked about all the vile content and destructive users the sub-admins had to deal with on an ongoing basis, and it certainly sounds like that burned out the whole volunteer staff in the end.

                    From my own POV, and something I noticed from the beginning here, is that in the wake of Reddit (and other places) treating its users as assets, it was important to grow a userbase across the Lemmysphere and Fediverse with a strong community spirit. To me that means more participation, more content-creation, and more willingness to be civil and cooperate. Not that these things didn't happen to a significant extent, but it seems like a lot of .ee users and visitors, while willing to hang out at the place, were moreso just willing to soak up the content without putting in much effort to help make the place work. Or even just being toxic and destructive, as above.

                    A lot more could be said and debated about the whole situation, but sites like Reddit, as draconian as they might be at times, and whatever their other flaws, have proven that they've been able to establish a system that works stably over the long haul.

                    Me, I love the idea of the FV, and for that very reason have put in almost two years of hard work in to my own project on .ee, but I'm very unsure about the long-term healthy function of the Lemmysphere in particular. More specifically, trying to migrate my project to another instance before .ee shuts down would be a herculean task AFAIK, especially with my having significant new health issues recently.

                    So, yeah. 😕

                    sortekanin@feddit.dkS rglullis@communick.newsR I M blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 7 Replies Last reply
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                    • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                      Censorship kills another server. rip.

                      there needs to be less of it and more discussion. if someone posts something you dont like, ignore and downvote it and move on. i rather be allowed to read the other sides comments than not at all.

                      why even are lemmy servers so overmoderated, jts not like we get flooded with users. whats more important, the fediverse success or thay you can ban another user because he doesnt fully support and yield to the current thing?

                      it seems the issue wasnt the server cost that will shut down lemm.ee.

                      im sick of mods. nobody likes mods!

                      chozo@fedia.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #43

                      im sick of mods. nobody likes mods!

                      Then self-host your own instance.

                      goten@piefed.socialG 1 Reply Last reply
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                      • demigodrick@lemmy.zipD [email protected]

                        These days, join-lemmy is pretty good at narrowing down instances to match your likes.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #44

                        I disagree. Some of its top recommendations include lemmynsfw.com (I have nothing against NSFW but go there and read their admin posts - they have been struggling for a long time so like lemm.ee not stable), beehaw.org (a fantastic instance but I feel like one not to be casually recommended to people without explanation), hilariouschaos.com (are you fucking kidding me with this neonazi shit?), lemmy.ml (certainly nothing ever controversial can be said about that one - at least not while on that platform!😜😞), and all of this is just what I noticed today but in the past iirc multiple times even it has suggested hexbear.net to me.

                        So no, I don't recommend the recommendation of this site to people.

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                        • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                          ... They are literally saying they don't have admins/mods enough. You want to strain your mods? Allowing comments on that sort of post is how you do that.

                          goten@piefed.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #45

                          it could have been a cool free 4 all like in the good old internet times xD

                          theloweststone@lemmy.worldT jackbydev@programming.devJ 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                            cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                            Hey everyone

                            We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                            What you need to know

                            As of now:

                            • New user registrations are disabled
                            • Creating new communities is disabled

                            What you should do:

                            • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                            • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                            • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                            • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                            Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                            Why this is happening

                            The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                            The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                            We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                            – lemm.ee team

                            rglullis@communick.newsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #46

                            Maybe we can take this as an opportunity to understand the importance of separating "instance for groups" and "instance for users"?

                            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB 1 Reply Last reply
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                            • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                              im sick of mods. nobody likes mods!

                              Then self-host your own instance.

                              goten@piefed.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #47

                              the time isnt right. i can still freely say what i want on the fediverse. if i were a radical then the time would probably be right.

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                              • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                Is transferring it to someone else in the cards? I have an LLC intended for my own future instance plans, but I'd be more than happy to take over .ee under it to prevent the loss of another good Lemmy-verse instance

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #48

                                I can't comment on whether the admins are likely to be open to this, but it's definitely more drama than simply shutting down.

                                The data users provided to lemm.ee was entrusted to the admins of that instance. It might not seem like a big deal, but just handing it over isn't really appropriate.

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                                • johnnyenzyme@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                  It really wasn't, sadly.

                                  The site founder put in an incredible amount of work setting the place up (something like 10 support servers at US$200/mo), but also tried to be lead admin for a year+, and that's typically an extremely tough double-job to do well on a big, popular site / place. In his various posts he sometimes talked about all the vile content and destructive users the sub-admins had to deal with on an ongoing basis, and it certainly sounds like that burned out the whole volunteer staff in the end.

                                  From my own POV, and something I noticed from the beginning here, is that in the wake of Reddit (and other places) treating its users as assets, it was important to grow a userbase across the Lemmysphere and Fediverse with a strong community spirit. To me that means more participation, more content-creation, and more willingness to be civil and cooperate. Not that these things didn't happen to a significant extent, but it seems like a lot of .ee users and visitors, while willing to hang out at the place, were moreso just willing to soak up the content without putting in much effort to help make the place work. Or even just being toxic and destructive, as above.

                                  A lot more could be said and debated about the whole situation, but sites like Reddit, as draconian as they might be at times, and whatever their other flaws, have proven that they've been able to establish a system that works stably over the long haul.

                                  Me, I love the idea of the FV, and for that very reason have put in almost two years of hard work in to my own project on .ee, but I'm very unsure about the long-term healthy function of the Lemmysphere in particular. More specifically, trying to migrate my project to another instance before .ee shuts down would be a herculean task AFAIK, especially with my having significant new health issues recently.

                                  So, yeah. 😕

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #49

                                  Sad to hear of your problems, but thank you for the time you did put into it! Nothing lasts forever but that doesn't mean it wasn't worthwhile.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Found the guy who's never moderated a large community. It's not discussions with opposing viewpoints, it's ad spam, harassment, CSAM, gore, literal neo-nazis, and once in a while someone spamming racial slurs.

                                    goten@piefed.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #50

                                    im more than a decade on the web. i think i can take it. if you cant, then dont do it?

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                                    • lastmonkingambit@lemm.eeL [email protected]

                                      im going to miss lemmee also this is going to led to more lemmy.world centralization sadly

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #51

                                      I would hope that the users would not go immediately to lemmy.world, but rather other instances. But you may be right unfortunately

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                                      • frostytrichs@crazypeople.onlineF [email protected]

                                        cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884

                                        Hey everyone

                                        We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

                                        What you need to know

                                        As of now:

                                        • New user registrations are disabled
                                        • Creating new communities is disabled

                                        What you should do:

                                        • You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
                                        • If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
                                        • Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
                                        • If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.

                                        Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.

                                        Why this is happening

                                        The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

                                        The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.


                                        We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

                                        – lemm.ee team

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #52

                                        Going to be interesting seeing the community shift around. Thanks for all the hard work Lemm.ee admins.

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          I can't comment on whether the admins are likely to be open to this, but it's definitely more drama than simply shutting down.

                                          The data users provided to lemm.ee was entrusted to the admins of that instance. It might not seem like a big deal, but just handing it over isn't really appropriate.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          but just handing it over isn't really appropriate.

                                          Well I would hope, if they were open to it, they would have internal discussions with the main mods and maybe some sort of vote amongst their user base and/or giving those who'd rather not time to delete their data before anything changes hands

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