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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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  • C [email protected]

    Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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    Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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      And an editor that does a decent job is not google docs.

      It is embarassing that MS has dominated this for more than 30 years and Google, despite its infinite wealth, hasn't made a decent office app.

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      I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion. Google Docs has done very little to innovate. The fact that you're still limited to like 6 built-in styles & lack of integrated syntax highlighting is ridiculous.

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      • adespoton@lemmy.caA [email protected]

        Thanks for this; I may use it to build out my NextCloud server. I’ve already used it to replace shared calendars and contacts.

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        If you're using Nextcloud All In One then it's easy to enable it in the AIO settings.

        If you're not, I suggest looking into it. It's the new officially recommended way of installing and it's been great.

        Nextcloud has an export/import data function but at the time I did it I only had a few GB of data so not sure how well it scales.

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          What was wrong with libre?

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          The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

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            I love the docs ability to create databases from my docs. That would be super useful for work and research activities.

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            • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

              I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion. Google Docs has done very little to innovate. The fact that you're still limited to like 6 built-in styles & lack of integrated syntax highlighting is ridiculous.

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              Google Docs has done very little to innovate.

              The place where I see Google Docs being far superior to any other product I've run into is collaborative work. Having multiple people writing in the same doc at the simultaneously is a train wreck in most products Office365 included. In other products there's a good chance you'll have a version conflict and someone's changes will be lost. Google docs handles that with ease.

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                I love the docs ability to create databases from my docs. That would be super useful for work and research activities.

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                Oh, you mean a spreadsheet?

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                  Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                    Oh, you mean a spreadsheet?

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                    No, because with the above you can have rich objects in databases (for example, a dynamically updated list of medical events, each with all the attributes I want, attachments etc.), and almost arbitrarily deep nesting of databases.
                    The idea to have databases with pages is one of the key features that made notion successful. It allows to structure knowledge without duplication, in addition to provide some other no-code features.

                    Spreadsheets are not even close.

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                    • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though... Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results.. oh wait, you can't... Cause it isn't a Google Docs alternative.

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                      None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

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                        Cryptpad is French, but they are using OnlyOffice, which is Russian.

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                        • C [email protected]

                          Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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                          In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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                            Cryptpad is French, but they are using OnlyOffice, which is Russian.

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                            Fuck 😞 Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

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                              Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                                The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

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                                Then just use Word online.

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  Google Docs has done very little to innovate.

                                  The place where I see Google Docs being far superior to any other product I've run into is collaborative work. Having multiple people writing in the same doc at the simultaneously is a train wreck in most products Office365 included. In other products there's a good chance you'll have a version conflict and someone's changes will be lost. Google docs handles that with ease.

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                                  I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue. I first started in college in 2006 with Onenote and it worked well even then. googol is garbage.

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                                    Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                                    Proprietary bullshit

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                                      It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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                                        Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

                                        It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

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                                        • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

                                          Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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                                          Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you're in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

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