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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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    Fuck 😞 Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

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    It is Latvian. It's also Russian. It's also Singaporean. It just depends on who you ask and how much you want to look into it.

    But yeah, that's a large part of why I use Collabora instead of OnlyOffice, it's just a lot less sketchy.

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      Is this just for EU citisens or can Americans like me use it?

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        goFuckYourself(Microsoft)

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        Hey, this is a Python project, use underscores.

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          Is this just for EU citisens or can Americans like me use it?

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          Foss, just deploy and enjoy

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            Foss, just deploy and enjoy

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            Don't know what a Foss is

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              Don't know what a Foss is

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              Free open source software

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                Its distrubuted so you don’t lose your content if something happens to one location.

                Right, but you'll lose your content if enough people lose interest in the network. That's absolutely a thing in the crypto world where things move fast. Relying on the network effect to secure your data sounds... sketchy.

                which is needed in some form if it’s distrubuted

                Sure, and the easiest way to do that is w/ public key cryptography, sign your encrypted stuff and you can always prove ownership. A blockchain gives you that, but it's hardly necessary to have consensus around that.

                include credit cards

                It probably uses some cryptocurrency. Lots of cryptocurrencies work well for micropayments (e.g. LiteCoin, Monero, or even Bitcoin w/ the lightning network).

                I just don't see the need for a blockchain here. Bittorrent has been doing content-based addressing for ages, and it doesn't need a blockchain, you just ask for the data at a given hash and you get it. Or you can use IPFS. If everything is properly encrypted, you're good to go!

                What the blockchain does offer is a way to pay for storage. So the more you pay, the more likely your data is to still be there after some time as people leave the network and nodes drop and whatnot. All in all though, it seems really risky to put anything important on it, and you might as well just pay for a storage provider from a legal entity that you can sue if things go poorly (and maybe two, so you're not screwed if goes bankrupt or whatever).

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                I was looking at it more, and it does use IPFS for the data storage (files and the collaboration chats etc), as well as Arweave, which I'd never heard of until today.

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                  Don't know what a Foss is

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                  free and open source software

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                    Don't know what a Foss is

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                    FOSS (free and open source software) is software that is completely open source and is free for everyone to use. It's much harder to enshittify, and if it ever does people can fork (make a copy, and make their own changes to the software).

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                      It's just for the French civil service, right?

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                        Dont know why we need another foss office but im certainly not going to complain.

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                          It looks closer to the markdown style of formatting though, and I doubt it has page formatting, or other more advanced formatting, or extensions, or a large selection of fonts. Honestly, even though docs has pageless formatting now, most people don't use it when they should, making everything unnecessary harder to read, so this will be better in that regard at least. This is probably good enough for 95% of what people use Docs for, but I wouldn't call it a replacement.

                          I haven't used it because I don't have a French government account, so correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.

                          Edit: it looks like it only has 1 font and no page formatting

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                          • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

                            Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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                            k8s is overkill for a lot of homelabs. Using docker compose is a fraction of that complexity

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                              What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

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                                In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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                                it seems to contains development containers and external services containers. So the compose file is more for local dev it seems

                                What i do find weird is the choice for Django for the backend. Python is incredibly slow, and django rest framework is even worse.

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                                  Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                                    Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

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                                      For offline editing there's already LibreOffice

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                                      LibreOffice does everything I need it to and there's no need for anything else.

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                                        Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                                        Can either of those do collaborative editing? I usually think of that feature when I think of Google Docs

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                                          Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                                          While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

                                          It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

                                          I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

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