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Microsoft's many Outlooks are confusing users and employees

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  • K [email protected]

    So when my old job had it, about 5 (out of 30) people in my area just couldn't open it.

    Not the same five, IT would frequently reinstall it to fix it, but it would just break constantly.

    Work computers, very locked down, couldn't do any alternative to it at the time, and we worked remote, so while everyone else had chat, some unfortunate people needed constant updates via email.

    The question was who would be SOL, not if someone would be, that day.

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    I can almost feel my shoulders cramping up gaaaaaaaaahhhh

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    • D [email protected]

      Weird, I always cum while using Teams

      (Dear employer - this was a joke)

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      YOUR FIYA'D! YA HEAR ME? FIYA'D! GET OUTTA HE'E.

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      • K [email protected]

        I cant stand anything microsoft anymore. Teams, outlook, word, every iteration just makes me more angry.

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        This whole comment chain makes me feel abject despair at the prospect of getting a job outside the service industry.

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        • J [email protected]

          Dude they fucked up Ctrl+S and Alt+F in paintbrush and it still fucks with my workflows.

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          You know you're an old time user when you call it paintbrush 🙂

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            "new" outlooks has less features than the old one. And its even harder to find things in settings (they removed a bunch of stuff). I dont look forward to this being on work devices...

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            The fun part is that the new Outlook for Mac is actually better than the new one for Windows (being a nativa app instead of the Electron app for Windows).

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              how shielded are enterprise accounts from the data harvest?

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              • jabathekek@sopuli.xyzJ [email protected]

                This whole comment chain makes me feel abject despair at the prospect of getting a job outside the service industry.

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                Shitty software still better than customers

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                • K [email protected]

                  I cant stand anything microsoft anymore. Teams, outlook, word, every iteration just makes me more angry.

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                  Popup #10000: Have you tried feature X that nobody asked for yet?

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                    My work and my former university uses outlook and Ms apps as their primary line of communication

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                      Popup #10000: Have you tried feature X that nobody asked for yet?

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                      RIP Clippy

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                      • J [email protected]

                        Sometimes I think about the billions of dollars of wasted productivity caused by Outlook being so bad at rendering email.

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                        I think every day about the productivity lost because people use Microsoft Word and Microsoft PowerPoint. Maybe even multiple times a day.

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                        • max_dryzen@mander.xyzM [email protected]

                          how shielded are enterprise accounts from the data harvest?

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                          Very much so.

                          They are paying for the service and expect appropriate treatment.

                          Companies generally frown upon their data being taken. It’s only consumers who use “free” services that really suffer from this. After all, if you’re not paying you are the product.

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                          • A [email protected]

                            Microsoft sucks and so does Outlook. My dad uses Outlook personally and I just can't imagine that. It's like taking your torture rack home with you for personal usage.

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                            My dad is also a huge Outlook fan. I think you need to just have been using it for 20+ years

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                              Welcome to journalism in 202x

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                              It's exactly the quality of journalism you get for free.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                Why? Dumping that shitty code as fast as possible is a win for everyone. It’s been completely capable as a mail app for over a year. It’s barely-used functions that are missing.

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                                Barely-used functions like PST files and clicking on something without waiting 3 seconds for an effect.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  I got a new job, fully remote, and we use Teams. Not gonna lie, I don’t get the hate. It seems as exactly adequate as WebEx or Zoom. None of them make me cum, none of them make me upset.

                                  What is it about Teams that people hate so much? How does WebEx or Zoom do it any better?

                                  Fully onboard with hating new Outlook though, fuck it sucks. Can’t even browse the global address list, it’s search only.

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                                  Teams is fine for video calling and screensharing. The mess begins when organisations, as MS encourages them to do, try to embed everything there is into teams. Then it can very fast become a black hole where no one finds anything anymore

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                                    Yeah I feel this. Outlook pisses me off. So does Microsoft in general.

                                    What pisses me off more is HP.

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                                    Yes but I don't use HP for email because it won't let me send one if my cyan ink is low.

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                                      Microsoft is just awful at doing basic shit. Office or M365 or copilot or whatever it is called is a mess of new tabs, signing in and duplication of services.

                                      Christ outlook sucks but it isnt even top five of how shit they are.

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                                      • Q [email protected]

                                        Comparing the amount of noise my laptop's CPU fans make between the two of them when doing moderately intensive tasks like screen sharing a 4K display, Zoom is measurably worse.

                                        Possibly the one time that Microsoft's inexplicable inability to make their own software run well on their own OS has somehow not manifested.

                                        Don't get me wrong, it is still death-by-a-thousand-cuts terrible, but the most current iteration of Teams is not the worst in its field... at this one specific thing.

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                                        It has gotten so much better over the years. Which is more testament to how unutterably awful it was at release than how good it is now.

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                                        • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                                          Not gonna lie, I don’t get the hate.

                                          TEAMs was terrible going into the pandemic but it's steadily gotten better, especially over the past 18 months. Reading down the comment chain though I'm in awe at the amount of problems that people are apparently still having with it!

                                          TEAMs via app or browser on my Windows 10 box at work? Fine.
                                          TEAMs via app or browser on my Windows 11 Surface? Fine.
                                          TEAMs via app or browser on my wheezy HP laptop with Windows 11? Fine.
                                          TEAMs via browser (Firefox even!) on all three of my Linux systems? Also completely fine!

                                          Hell I've got Creative T-60 USB-C speakers, a logi webcam, and Turtle Beach headphones hooked to a USB sharing KVM for two of those linux boxes and it still just works.

                                          I must be the luckiest dumb-ass alive when it comes to MS TEAMs because at least for the last two years it just works.

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                                          My TEAMs laptop unfortunately only has an 11th gen i5 and 16 gigs of RAM so it runs like crap. And yes I only run TEAMs, a proprietary application with <50 MB RAM and <1% CPU usage, and occasionally Firefox.

                                          Though TEAMs in Edge runs fine. It's only an issue with the app.

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