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The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice

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  • S [email protected]

    Call me when Libre doesn't suck/feel like it's stuck in 2003.

    I won't hold my breath.

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    Call me when Windows doesn't suck and it's not getting worse year by year. I will laugh every time they add more ads and more tracking.

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      Call me when Libre doesn't suck/feel like it's stuck in 2003.

      I won't hold my breath.

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      Baby duck syndrome.

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      • H [email protected]

        Mint was my first Linux OS, and it's been really nice.

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        Not my first, but the one I landed on after years. It's just so good.

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          Can't wait for the "The end of Windows 11 is approaching..." article in a few years. Keep me posted.

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          • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

            I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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            Just look up windows related cves. There's like 10 new exploits almost every month or so. Sure, not all of them will be super critical, but as time goes on they will stack up. I would not want to risk it, but you do you.

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            • I [email protected]

              Families exist. I'm the "IT guy" for 3 people using laptops

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              That's reasonable; I just wouldn't have called my wife's laptop my laptop I guess. It was either that or there was probably an interesting story behind it.

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              • sir_kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                I've had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it's "end of life" don't mean shit to me. It'll keep chugging along for years more.

                That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!

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                EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

                If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

                The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

                As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

                So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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                • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                  I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

                  We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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                  I don't know what kind of software that particular machine runs, but for server and backup Linux appears to be the go to tool. I'm not saying that you have to migrate everything to Linux. I just say that for servers and the like the transition is probably easier than for desktop.

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                    Can't wait for the "The end of Windows 11 is approaching..." article in a few years. Keep me posted.

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                    Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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                    • prof@infosec.pubP [email protected]

                      EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

                      If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

                      The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

                      As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

                      So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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                      I saw a YT video about XP being compromised. It was literally about 2-3 minutes, and it had been attacked.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Hahahahahaha, I still periodically see win2k/2k3 on the network at some clients, with SMBv1 enabled across the domain to make the CISO's eye twitch

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                        back in 2017, the company I worked at had a win 2K server. Crazy shit. It was for a critical system (ran the phone system)

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                          I saw a YT video about XP being compromised. It was literally about 2-3 minutes, and it had been attacked.

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                          Yeah, we managed to recreate that in a lab. Those old OS's are super vulnerable.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

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                            I've been migrating some of my clients (I do on site support for SMBs) to LTSC 2019, which gets updates until 2029.
                            An added benefit is that it gets a lot less updates, essentially security updates, and comes with a lot less crap preinstalled.

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                              Somehow, windows 11 is even MORE spyware than 10!

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                                Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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                                Nah, there'll be a new boogeyman by then.

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                                  Somehow, windows 11 is even MORE spyware than 10!

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                                  Now with AI! So Windows can use your processing power to record and analyze every use of your computer, and report back useful findings to MS. What data is sent back? Who knows? You certainly won't be told what 'core telemetry' is required at any point in time.

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                                    How many laptops do you own lol?

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                                    2, though they are both quite old

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                                      Families exist. I'm the "IT guy" for 3 people using laptops

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                                      They are all my personal laptops from different parts of my past, that I just never threw away when I upgraded

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                                        GF recently wanted to buy Ms office because she had a nice looking CV template for it that would not work well in LibreOffice. So I spent some hours making a good one without Ms crap, just so they would not get anymore money.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

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                                          ESU also offers one year of support for non-enterprise users for $30.

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