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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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  • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

    Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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    I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

    A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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      Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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      Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

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        Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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        A good web app is awesome!

        But the big ones usually wants to have a native app so that they can scan your whole computer and so on. This is good news.

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          Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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          It does not work on my work-computer, since office macros and some formatting renders differently across versions. Other required software constraints make windows unusable for me.

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            None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

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            That is what I'm saying this editor is trying to be Notion, not Google Docs.

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              So FramaSoft is not a thing ??
              It's French

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              • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                That is what I'm saying this editor is trying to be Notion, not Google Docs.

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                Yes, but who said otherwise then?

                Oh OP made it up. Nvm.
                They write themselves that it is a notion alternative.

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                • zonnewin@feddit.nlZ [email protected]

                  Cryptpad is French, but they are using OnlyOffice, which is Russian.

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                  #53

                  Interesting, thanks for sharing!

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                    Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                    Maybe I missed something, but since when Word is not only an alternative to an office suite, but also a web-based one?

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                      We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

                      See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

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                        Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                        Word won't install on machine.

                        LibreOffice does, though.

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                          We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

                          See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

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                          Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

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                            Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

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                            It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

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                              We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

                              See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

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                              I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

                              Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

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                                Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                                goFuckYourself(Microsoft)

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                                  I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

                                  A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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                                  Yea I’m not a fan of helm either. In fact, I avoid charts when possible. But kustomize is great.

                                  I feel the same way about docker compose. If it wasn’t already obvious, I’m biased in favor of k8s. I like and prefer that interface. But that’s just preference. If you like docker compose, great!

                                  There’s one point where I do disagree however. There are scenarios where a local k8s cluster has a good and clear purpose. If your production environment runs on k8s, then it’s best to mirror that locally as much as possible. In fact, there are many apps that even require a k8s api to run. Plus, being able to destroy and rebuild your entire k8s cluster in 30s is wonderful for local testing.

                                  Edit: typos

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                                    I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

                                    Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

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                                    I wish we did with more open source and local software.
                                    My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
                                    The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
                                    The databases are all azure
                                    The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
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                                    We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

                                    It's a public school.
                                    Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

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                                      I wish we did with more open source and local software.
                                      My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
                                      The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
                                      The databases are all azure
                                      The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
                                      Teams
                                      We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

                                      It's a public school.
                                      Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

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                                      The school board here uses Google, and Microsoft... I emailed their board and the province's privacy commissionaire asking why. I grew up with an agenda, and that shit worked better than using a website and email for JK/SK aged kids.

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                                      • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                                        A bit of both I guess

                                        Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

                                        And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

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                                        I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

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                                          We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

                                          See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

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                                          What do folks think of cryptpad? Thinking of more like planning on switching from proton after CEO bullshit

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