France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

[jomusic@lemmy.ml]

Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

[notastatist@feddit.org]

It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

[slax@sh.itjust.works]

I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

[rustyshackleford@programming.dev]

goFuckYourself(Microsoft)

[lodra@programming.dev]

Yea I’m not a fan of helm either. In fact, I avoid charts when possible. But kustomize is great.

I feel the same way about docker compose. If it wasn’t already obvious, I’m biased in favor of k8s. I like and prefer that interface. But that’s just preference. If you like docker compose, great!

There’s one point where I do disagree however. There are scenarios where a local k8s cluster has a good and clear purpose. If your production environment runs on k8s, then it’s best to mirror that locally as much as possible. In fact, there are many apps that even require a k8s api to run. Plus, being able to destroy and rebuild your entire k8s cluster in 30s is wonderful for local testing.

Edit: typos

[bygourou@sh.itjust.works]

I wish we did with more open source and local software.
My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
The databases are all azure
The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
Teams
We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

It's a public school.
Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

[slax@sh.itjust.works]

The school board here uses Google, and Microsoft... I emailed their board and the province's privacy commissionaire asking why. I grew up with an agenda, and that shit worked better than using a website and email for JK/SK aged kids.

[korhaka@sopuli.xyz]

I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

[yarharsuperstar@lemmy.world]

What do folks think of cryptpad? Thinking of more like planning on switching from proton after CEO bullshit

[pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I'll look into that one too, I didn't know about it

Which bullshit are you talking about? I might have missed it and my search didn't bring much on it

edit: I think i found it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40123727/17360792

[partial_accumen@lemmy.world]

I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue.

You've had 60+ people all in a single Excel spreadsheet on Sharepoint all making changes at the exact same moment and never once had a issue of a document lock or file corruption? Its okay to have a preference for one product over the other, but when you're blinded by brand loyalty where you can see no wrong with your preferred product, it makes you lose credibility.

[coolmojo@lemmy.world]

it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

They also work on android and IOS. You are also not dependent on the different toolkits. Also it is so much more performant.

[anon593839@lemmy.world]

I personally really like Cryptpad. I haven't heard of Fileverse, so I'll check it out. Cryptpad is the closest thing I've found to a drop-in Google Suite replacement.

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

They also work on android and IOS.

I can imagine it'll be a 160 MB app that loads the website in a webview, like it usually is

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

which is fine if you deny network connections for it with a per-process firewall. but with a webapp you can never be sure that they won't snatch your documents.

[conditional_soup@lemm.ee]

Checked out the site on mobile, and it was unresponsive to any of my clicks.

[fishpen0@lemmy.world]

Right up until you are doing compliance and governance and you realize docs are actually a terrible terrible source of truth for any automated systems. We’re 3 years into a project at a healthcare company to rip google sheets and docs out of our apps and replacing them with Postgres, bigquery, dbt and dagster.

It’s simply not okay to have your database be something anyone with write access to a doc can fuck up a formula by accident on. Your medical bills being maintained by random formulas on dozens of linked spreadsheets maintained by hand by random people on different teams is part of why they are impossible to unwind. By the time someone audits it, it’s printing different numbers than when your bill was rendered and it’s version control doesn’t work to roll it back without breaking dozens of other things.

[blushedpotatoplayers@sopuli.xyz]

For offline editing there's already LibreOffice

[cley_faye@lemmy.world]

I won't argue with the ups and downs of each technos, but I recently looked into docker swarms and it was all I expected kubernetes to be, without the hassle. And I could also get a full cluster with services restored from scratch in 30s. But I am obviously biased towards it, too