What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?
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Eugenics as a concept isn't bad, we just keep letting assholes pilot it.
I firmly believe that it isn't ethical to bring a child into the world knowing it's going to have a condition that will effect it's quality of life severely and likely continue to do so for generations to come. We have the tech to predict, modify, and avoid tons of issues. We already do it regularly with Downs. It would take tragically little effort to do the same for things like sickle cell, psoriasis, color blindness, even some mental illnesses.
It's only a problem because someone inevitably says, "that's brilliant! And while we're at it we can get rid of the Jews/blacks/gays/etc!"
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It's "losers", but yes. I'd phrase it as "not every poor and uneducated person deserves sympathy; it's not necessarily victim-blaming to refuse to accommodate such a person."
That's a quality summary.
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Guess what, most if not all veggies and vegans are also doing something morally dubious at best.
Factory farming, extensive farming, they’re all bad for the soil, bad for native wildlife, bad for native plants. The societal impacts of factory farming are also not small. In the end, the moral lines people draw are mostly at different places, neither is undoubtedly better than the other.
As it currently stands, the morally correct option for food production would probably be for a large amount of the population to starve. That, of course, is also not entirely morally correct.
Disclaimer: I am personally omnivorous. I have a son and many other relatives and friends who are or were vegetarians or vegans. I love a lot of veggie food and used to frequent vegan restaurants, so I have absolutely zero qualms with it.
I have personally tried to give up meat twice, once for 6 months and once for a year. On both cases my health suffered massively for it, and I went back to eating meat. I had a cousin who was, for many years, a hardcore vegetarian. She was also of the opinion that eating meat was wrong. A few years ago she reintroduced fish in her diet to overcome health issues after fighting them for years. Most symptoms subsided in a handful of months. I believe she now also eats beef, although infrequently and in small quantities.
I’m sorry to be that guy but reality is more complex than whatever moral line any one of us would like to draw. You’re not wrong but it would behoove you to acquire some nuance on your thoughts.
As it currently stands, the morally correct option for food production would probably be for a large amount of the population to starve. That, of course, is also not entirely morally correct.
Considering almost 1.5 billion adults in the world are overweight it wouldn't be so bad to let some people starve.
Guess what, most if not all veggies and vegans are also doing something morally dubious at best.
Factory farming, extensive farming, they’re all bad for the soil, bad for native wildlife, bad for native plants. The societal impacts of factory farming are also not small. In the end, the moral lines people draw are mostly at different places, neither is undoubtedly better than the other.Animals needs to eat and drink too, the meat industry has the highest tool on the farming industry.
I have personally tried to give up meat twice, once for 6 months and once for a year. On both cases my health suffered massively for it, and I went back to eating meat. I had a cousin who was, for many years, a hardcore vegetarian. She was also of the opinion that eating meat was wrong. A few years ago she reintroduced fish in her diet to overcome health issues after fighting them for years. Most symptoms subsided in a handful of months. I believe she now also eats beef, although infrequently and in small quantities.
I’m sorry to be that guy but reality is more complex than whatever moral line any one of us would like to draw. You’re not wrong but it would behoove you to acquire some nuance on your thoughts.It sound like your diet was off, if you don't eat animal products you need valid alternatives to complete and balance your diet. In cultures shaped around animal products it may not be automatic or easy to find alternatives. Our ancestors diet for example had less meat and more lentils, in countries were they consume less meat you are most likely to find popular dish with other proteins sources.
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Jeez, this thread is scary, I forget how many crazy opinions people can have.
Mine is probably that non-human animal lives matter, maybe not exactly in the same way that human lives do, but in a comparable and important way. I believe that murder is murder no matter the animal killed.
And also a maybe close second (not really an opinion but you could argue that I'm too dark about it) is that climate change is far past the point of no return and that in 50 years we are all going to live extremely hard lives (if we even survive) that right now would seem like an apocalypse type fantasy movie.
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Milk should be poured before the cereal. I've always done this because pouring milk on top of the cereal gets the top wet and also kind of pushes the cereal down. I love crunchy cereal
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Graveyards are a disgusting waste of space. Their existence communicates to society that many dead people are more entitled to space on this Earth than some living people will ever have.
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Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.
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There are a lot of calories lost when eating meat, because the animals burn calories by staying alive. So eating meat is like eating 15x times more calories from veggies. So everything bad for the environment about vegetarian consumption is true for meat too but in worse.
And perfect is the enemy of good. Veggies aren't perfect, but they're far better than meat for the environment.
Some of those are useless calories, we can't eat grass and on some lands where only grass grows so cows are a way of using that grass, but that's not the majority.
most of what animals are fed are parts of plants people can't or won't eat, or grazed grass. in that way, we are conserving resources.
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Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.
This is an extremely popular opinion among those who've not unpacked that what you're describing is eugenics
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No one really seems to talk about overpopulation as a real problem and it kind of freaks me out. Climate change, micro plastics, war, economy is all bad, but the amount of people that keep multiplying with no bother in the world is crazy. Factory farms are already out of control and it's just gonna grow exponentially.
any policy you can implement to address "overpopulation" is eugenics. so there is nothing (ethical) to do about it.
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Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.
Who decides who can pro-create? What is the criteria?
I don't see a scenario where this works out well.
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Cycling helmets should not be mandated. If someone is dumb enough to cycle without one, that's on them.
I believe significantly more people would cycle if helmets were not required by law.
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So... OP's "hot" take is "losers exist"?
Not just that they exist but that they are a fucking huge drain on society.
As much as Billionaires are a cancer and the world would be better without them, Jeff Bezos never smashed the window on my car to steal my speakers, he doesnt come out vandalising public transport or parks and he isnt the reason my wife doesnt feel safe walking around at night. Billionaires are the reason we dont get more nice things, these assholes are the reasons we cant keep the ones we have.
They also make any sort of socialistic change harder, because any time you try to help the "underprivileged" anyone who wants to oppose it can hold up one of these wastes of oxygen and use them as the spokesperson.
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Becoming a parent is not a right, it is a privilege (I guess). You need a license to get married, drive, hunt or fish, your dog needs one. There should be some sort of class and background check you must pass before being allowed to procreate. Just the basics like: this is the level of care and support this small helpless mammal needs to be healthy and grow to maturity. This is how much, minimum, that quality upbringing will cost and do you meet that bare minimum level of competence and income to raise a healthy baby.
It is a basic biological function so you could say pooping is a privilege too.
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If you eat factory meat, you're doing something morally wrong that can't be justified.
And the vast majority of people who get defensive about that, deep down know what they are doing is morally dubious at best, but they can't/won't admit it, so they lash out at vegans/vegetarians instead.
Gaslighting
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Jeez, this thread is scary, I forget how many crazy opinions people can have.
Mine is probably that non-human animal lives matter, maybe not exactly in the same way that human lives do, but in a comparable and important way. I believe that murder is murder no matter the animal killed.
And also a maybe close second (not really an opinion but you could argue that I'm too dark about it) is that climate change is far past the point of no return and that in 50 years we are all going to live extremely hard lives (if we even survive) that right now would seem like an apocalypse type fantasy movie.
The family of ants you ran over yesterday would like a word, their father and husband Steve, is a good soldier that supplies for the colony. This murder and or antslaughter must be punished with the highest degree of justice involved.
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Older men having sex with sexually mature teen girls is fine, under reasonable circumstances. The world seems to think this is always coercive or predatory or harmful, but there is no reason any of these things are universally true.
The age of consent in almost all nations is around 18. This stands to reason, since society expects people of this age to be able to make reasonable decisions. Depending on the country, people around this age are given agency to emancipate themselves from their families, take on hundreds of thousands of dollars of student debt, join the military and possibly die for their country, drive an automobile, buy alcohol or tobacco, etc. If we believe someone is mature enough to do these things, then we should certainly give them the lawful right to have sex with whomever they like.
Meanwhile, women often find maturity, status, or wealth to be attractive qualities in men, and men find youthfulness to be an attractive quality in a woman. Of course, this differs person to person - everyone had different sexual preferences. But there are general trends, and based on these trends, the pairing of younger women and older men is an obvious one.
The typical response to this is that "the only reason a man would want to date a woman that young is so he can have someone to control and manipulate" - which is crazy. The primary reason men want to date younger women is because they are hot. However, because there is a social stigma against age gap relationships, most men are put off of their interest to pursue younger women. So what you end up with is only dirtbags pursuing younger women - the men who do not care about negative social stigmas.
However, if you are a man who is interested in dating younger women, this whole situation works to your favor - if you are willing to tolerate the social stigma, you end up with much less competition for the women you find most attractive.
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Suicide is perfectly acceptable and should be a right, we should all have the choice of when we want to go. Some pain, physical or emotional is too much, or loss can be too great.
I don't care if I could or can get better, I should be able to down some hemlock and leave.
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Most people on Lemmy aren’t as kind or open-minded as they like to appear. There’s plenty of hate here on this side of the aisle, but it gets excused because they believe they’re “on the correct side.”
tl;dr: You’re just as hateful and close-minded as the people you claim to be fighting. Same behavior, different colored hat.
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Cycling helmets should not be mandated. If someone is dumb enough to cycle without one, that's on them.
I believe significantly more people would cycle if helmets were not required by law.
Where are they mandated?
