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This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!

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  • F [email protected]

    Black ops 6 just demanded another 45 GB for an update on my PS5, when the game is already 200 GB. AAA devs are making me look more into small indie games that don’t eat the whole hard drive to spend my money on, great job folks.

    E) meant to say instead of buying a bigger hard drive I’ll support a small dev instead.

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    Did it use 45 GB extra or were there just 45 GB worth of changes?

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      CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE

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      I know right. Why is this not a thing already? I mean I understand the various U.2, U.3, and EDSFF are great for high density data center installs. We have a 1U box in production that could be as high as 1 PB given current densities with E1.L drives but that’s enterprise level stuff. I just want a huge 3.5 SSD I could put in these pro-consumer level NAS boxes or maybe even one I could build myself for my home lab.

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        I know right. Why is this not a thing already? I mean I understand the various U.2, U.3, and EDSFF are great for high density data center installs. We have a 1U box in production that could be as high as 1 PB given current densities with E1.L drives but that’s enterprise level stuff. I just want a huge 3.5 SSD I could put in these pro-consumer level NAS boxes or maybe even one I could build myself for my home lab.

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        Thru exist but they're all several hundred dollars and 480 GB for some reason.

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        • F [email protected]

          Black ops 6 just demanded another 45 GB for an update on my PS5, when the game is already 200 GB. AAA devs are making me look more into small indie games that don’t eat the whole hard drive to spend my money on, great job folks.

          E) meant to say instead of buying a bigger hard drive I’ll support a small dev instead.

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          Do you have time to talk about our Lord and Savior FACTORIO? Here; just have a quick taste.

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            I don't know about that. These are spinning disks so they aren't exactly going to be fast when compared to solid state drives. Then again, I wouldn't exactly put it past some of the AAA game devs out there.

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            10 of these in a raid6?that's 4x speed and 400tb.

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              Thru exist but they're all several hundred dollars and 480 GB for some reason.

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              I have a few 960GB (ish? can’t remember exact size) 2.5in at work that are almost useless.

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                Did it use 45 GB extra or were there just 45 GB worth of changes?

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                Requires an additional 45 clear to accommodate the update file and is currently sitting at 196.5. Deleting Hitman and queuing it up after the update is simple enough technically for someone like me with a wired high speed connection and no data cap, but still a pain in the ass and way too big for a single game.

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                  Do you have time to talk about our Lord and Savior FACTORIO? Here; just have a quick taste.

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                  I haven’t played much since my curved monitor got broken but between Stellaris and Rimworld I don’t know if there’s enough time in a day for another build queue. I’ll check it out at some point and fall into the rabbit hole I’m sure.

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                    Just wondering, why do you run a monero node?

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                    For my wallets

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                    • F [email protected]

                      I've been buying computer stuff for like 30 years and never once has any of it had any weird glowing stuff like on the box

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                      That's extra.

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                        10 of these in a raid6?that's 4x speed and 400tb.

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                        Of it's raid6 it's 320tb or so.

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                          I've been buying computer stuff for like 30 years and never once has any of it had any weird glowing stuff like on the box

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                          We seem to be headed in that direction though. My most recent motherboard has built in LEDs for no practical reason other than "ooh shiny". Took me a minute to find the UEFI setting to disable that. "Stealth mode" apparently.

                          It's also increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to find wired mice, keyboards and headsets in that ever-increasing gulf between "all singing, all dancing, expensive gaming device full of unnecessary LEDs" and "cheap, awful, bare minimum". If it plugs in and there's a 5v rail nearby, gotta draw on that to be shiny! Anything else would be sacrilege!

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Oh wow does it come with glowing green computery looking stuff like in the picture

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                            The image is literally just the proprietary xbox drive plugged into an xbox

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                              CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE

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                              Yeah, why aren't there any?

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                              • ptz@dubvee.orgP [email protected]

                                Having been burned many times in the past, I won't even trust 40 GB to a Seagate drive let alone 40 TB.

                                Even in enterprise arrays where they're basically disposable when they fail, I'm still wary of them.

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                                Same. Between work and home, I've had ~30 Seagate drives fail after less than a year. I stopped buying them for personal use many years ago, but work still insists, because they're cheaper. I have 1TB WD Black drives that are over ten years old and still running. My newest WD Black drive is a 6TB, and I've had it for seven years. I dunno if WD Black is still good, but that's the first one I'll try if I need a new drive.

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                                  CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE

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                                  Aren't a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?

                                  How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?

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                                    Oh, they'll do compression alright, they'll ship every asset in a dozen resolutions with different lossy compression algos so they don't need to spend dev time actually handling model and texture downscaling properly. And games will still run like crap because reasons.

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                                    Games can't really compress their assets much.

                                    Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.

                                    That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.

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                                      And they’d only be like $5k each. HDD prices have gone ridiculous. I’d just like 20TB drives to be reasonably priced. 10TB drives are twice the price they were 5 years ago.

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                                      • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                                        Games can't really compress their assets much.

                                        Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.

                                        That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.

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                                        When I say "compress" I mean downscale. I'm suggesting they could have dozens of copies of each texture and model in a host of different resolutions (number of polygons, pixels for textures, etc), instead of handling that in the code. I'm not exactly sure how they currently do low vs medium vs high settings, just suggesting that they could solve that using a ton more data if they essentially had no limitations in terms of customer storage space.

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                                          That's extra.

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                                          Yeah but it's not hovering or rotating unsupported in the air. The box said it was going to do that stuff. I'm pretty sure this doesn't even have any weird runes on it either

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