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This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!

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  • Q [email protected]

    Just wondering, why do you run a monero node?

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    For my wallets

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      I've been buying computer stuff for like 30 years and never once has any of it had any weird glowing stuff like on the box

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      That's extra.

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      • C [email protected]

        10 of these in a raid6?that's 4x speed and 400tb.

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        Of it's raid6 it's 320tb or so.

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          I've been buying computer stuff for like 30 years and never once has any of it had any weird glowing stuff like on the box

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          We seem to be headed in that direction though. My most recent motherboard has built in LEDs for no practical reason other than "ooh shiny". Took me a minute to find the UEFI setting to disable that. "Stealth mode" apparently.

          It's also increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to find wired mice, keyboards and headsets in that ever-increasing gulf between "all singing, all dancing, expensive gaming device full of unnecessary LEDs" and "cheap, awful, bare minimum". If it plugs in and there's a 5v rail nearby, gotta draw on that to be shiny! Anything else would be sacrilege!

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          • F [email protected]

            Oh wow does it come with glowing green computery looking stuff like in the picture

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            The image is literally just the proprietary xbox drive plugged into an xbox

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            • L [email protected]

              CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE

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              Yeah, why aren't there any?

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              • ptz@dubvee.orgP [email protected]

                Having been burned many times in the past, I won't even trust 40 GB to a Seagate drive let alone 40 TB.

                Even in enterprise arrays where they're basically disposable when they fail, I'm still wary of them.

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                Same. Between work and home, I've had ~30 Seagate drives fail after less than a year. I stopped buying them for personal use many years ago, but work still insists, because they're cheaper. I have 1TB WD Black drives that are over ten years old and still running. My newest WD Black drive is a 6TB, and I've had it for seven years. I dunno if WD Black is still good, but that's the first one I'll try if I need a new drive.

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                  CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE

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                  Aren't a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?

                  How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?

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                    Oh, they'll do compression alright, they'll ship every asset in a dozen resolutions with different lossy compression algos so they don't need to spend dev time actually handling model and texture downscaling properly. And games will still run like crap because reasons.

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                    Games can't really compress their assets much.

                    Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.

                    That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.

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                      And they’d only be like $5k each. HDD prices have gone ridiculous. I’d just like 20TB drives to be reasonably priced. 10TB drives are twice the price they were 5 years ago.

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                      • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                        Games can't really compress their assets much.

                        Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.

                        That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.

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                        When I say "compress" I mean downscale. I'm suggesting they could have dozens of copies of each texture and model in a host of different resolutions (number of polygons, pixels for textures, etc), instead of handling that in the code. I'm not exactly sure how they currently do low vs medium vs high settings, just suggesting that they could solve that using a ton more data if they essentially had no limitations in terms of customer storage space.

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                          That's extra.

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                          Yeah but it's not hovering or rotating unsupported in the air. The box said it was going to do that stuff. I'm pretty sure this doesn't even have any weird runes on it either

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                            We seem to be headed in that direction though. My most recent motherboard has built in LEDs for no practical reason other than "ooh shiny". Took me a minute to find the UEFI setting to disable that. "Stealth mode" apparently.

                            It's also increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to find wired mice, keyboards and headsets in that ever-increasing gulf between "all singing, all dancing, expensive gaming device full of unnecessary LEDs" and "cheap, awful, bare minimum". If it plugs in and there's a 5v rail nearby, gotta draw on that to be shiny! Anything else would be sacrilege!

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                            I want everything wired, antennas and batteries usually don't make that stuff any better

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                              The image is literally just the proprietary xbox drive plugged into an xbox

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                              I had an Xbox and it didn't do that either!!!

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                              • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgT [email protected]

                                I deal with large data chunks and 40TB drives are an interesting idea.... until you consider one failing

                                raids and arrays for these large data sets still makes more sense then all the eggs in smaller baskets

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                                These are literally only sold by the rack to data centers.

                                What are you going on about?

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                                  Best I can do is a 3.5'' inch SATA to USB adapter case with one of these tiny SSDs glued in

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                                  Don't forget to include the hacked controller firmware that reports the drive size as triple what it actually is.

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                                    Yeah, why aren't there any?

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                                    There are:
                                    https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/specifications/

                                    They are just not listed in shops for poor people. (joking)

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                                    • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                                      Aren't a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?

                                      How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?

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                                      Well, Kioxia sells a 30TB 2.5in SSD right now for about $5k. I'm sure they could make a 60+TB SSD by just stacking 2 of them in a 3.5in case.

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                                      • L [email protected]

                                        I still wonder, what's stopping vendors from producing "chonk store" devices. Slow, but reliable bulk storage SSDs.

                                        Just in terms of physical space, you could easily fit 200 micro SD cards in a 2.5" drive, have everything replicated five times and end up with a reasonably reliable device (extremely simplified, I know).

                                        I just want something for luke-warm storage that didn't require a datacenter and/or 500W continuous power draw.

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                                        Flash drives are much worse than hard drives for cold storage. The charge in flash will leak.

                                        If you want cheap storage, back it up to another drive and unplug it.

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                                          cool. now I can lose even more data when it dies.

                                          no thanks...

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