France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

which is fine if you deny network connections for it with a per-process firewall. but with a webapp you can never be sure that they won't snatch your documents.

[conditional_soup@lemm.ee]

Checked out the site on mobile, and it was unresponsive to any of my clicks.

[fishpen0@lemmy.world]

Right up until you are doing compliance and governance and you realize docs are actually a terrible terrible source of truth for any automated systems. We’re 3 years into a project at a healthcare company to rip google sheets and docs out of our apps and replacing them with Postgres, bigquery, dbt and dagster.

It’s simply not okay to have your database be something anyone with write access to a doc can fuck up a formula by accident on. Your medical bills being maintained by random formulas on dozens of linked spreadsheets maintained by hand by random people on different teams is part of why they are impossible to unwind. By the time someone audits it, it’s printing different numbers than when your bill was rendered and it’s version control doesn’t work to roll it back without breaking dozens of other things.

[blushedpotatoplayers@sopuli.xyz]

For offline editing there's already LibreOffice

[cley_faye@lemmy.world]

I won't argue with the ups and downs of each technos, but I recently looked into docker swarms and it was all I expected kubernetes to be, without the hassle. And I could also get a full cluster with services restored from scratch in 30s. But I am obviously biased towards it, too

[agent641@lemmy.world]

No America's club

[febra@lemmy.world]

Well this software is more intended for administrative staff working for the government, so I don't think that decentralisation is their goal here.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Why distributed? Having your data tied to a blockchain seems unnecessarily complicated, and it essentially puts your data at risk if the bulk of the community moves to the next hot thing.

We really need to decouple storage from the apps themselves. Whether you use distributed storage, local storage, or something commercially backed like S3 should be a choice separate from the app you use to view and edit your data.

I self-host Collabora (online version of LibreOffice; OnlyOffice is another option), and my data lives on my NAS, but it could just as easily live on S3 or some distributed data store.

[flop_leash_973@lemmy.world]

As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.

[notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world]

(Not op) Its distrubuted so you don't lose your content if something happens to one location.

Just browsing the landing page, it looks like the blockchain part offers proof of ownership and strict access controls without having to use a centralized service, which is needed in some form if it's distrubuted.

I imagine but haven't seen that it might handle payments for having things be distrubuted as well, which would have meant having to include credit cards otherwise which would complicate things like micro payments to any given person hosting your content.

Edit: also this is the kind of thing that should use an S3 compatible API so you don't get locked in as you said. It'd let you move the data between providers effortlessly.

[cancermancer@sh.itjust.works]

I self-host Collabora (online version of LibreOffice; OnlyOffice is another option), and my data lives on my NAS, but it could just as easily live on S3 or some distributed data store.

Oh this is interesting. Any pitfalls you could talk about before I go popping this up myself?

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

It's pretty easy if you use NextCloud with the AIO image, but if you're doing anything fancier than that, strap in because there aren't many decent tutorials.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Its distrubuted so you don’t lose your content if something happens to one location.

Right, but you'll lose your content if enough people lose interest in the network. That's absolutely a thing in the crypto world where things move fast. Relying on the network effect to secure your data sounds... sketchy.

which is needed in some form if it’s distrubuted

Sure, and the easiest way to do that is w/ public key cryptography, sign your encrypted stuff and you can always prove ownership. A blockchain gives you that, but it's hardly necessary to have consensus around that.

include credit cards

It probably uses some cryptocurrency. Lots of cryptocurrencies work well for micropayments (e.g. LiteCoin, Monero, or even Bitcoin w/ the lightning network).

I just don't see the need for a blockchain here. Bittorrent has been doing content-based addressing for ages, and it doesn't need a blockchain, you just ask for the data at a given hash and you get it. Or you can use IPFS. If everything is properly encrypted, you're good to go!

What the blockchain does offer is a way to pay for storage. So the more you pay, the more likely your data is to still be there after some time as people leave the network and nodes drop and whatnot. All in all though, it seems really risky to put anything important on it, and you might as well just pay for a storage provider from a legal entity that you can sue if things go poorly (and maybe two, so you're not screwed if goes bankrupt or whatever).

[lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de]

Short version to save others a click: Proton's CEO tweeted an endorsement of Trump's FTC pick, going on to praise how apparently the Republicans are now the party for the "little guys" and crediting the ongoing antitrust proceedings to Trump's first term.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

It is Latvian. It's also Russian. It's also Singaporean. It just depends on who you ask and how much you want to look into it.

But yeah, that's a large part of why I use Collabora instead of OnlyOffice, it's just a lot less sketchy.

[hawlsera@lemm.ee]

Is this just for EU citisens or can Americans like me use it?

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Hey, this is a Python project, use underscores.

[railcar8095@lemm.ee]

Foss, just deploy and enjoy

[hawlsera@lemm.ee]

Don't know what a Foss is