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Microsoft's many Outlooks are confusing users and employees

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  • S [email protected]

    I've been paying for Office365 home for years. Recently I started a business and signed up for 365 Business for the company email address.

    Outlook stopped working, because the 365 Business account - which I specifically signed up in order to do email - doesn't include local Outlook, and my existing home-licensed one throws a hissy fit if I try connecting it to my business account.

    Microsoft sucks.

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    How... how do they not have a smooth on-ramp for what is basically a straight upgrade to the same service?!

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      Windows Mail was IMO perfect for simple mail at home. Now they replaced it with Outlook with slightly updated UI but also with ads.

      Guess what - I started looking for alternatives. So far Wino Mail seems pretty good - someone else on here recommended it.

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        All of Microsoft office products haven't changed for the good in more than a decade. I still use office 2007 on my personal desktop and 90% of the features and buttons are in the same spot as the current office 365 offering.

        Only thing that is an improvement is live collaboration, but that's getting constantly screwed up by one drive sucking ass.

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        • O [email protected]

          I'd love to keep outlook off my personal phone but there's no chance I'm getting a company phone considering I'm a shop employee and everything in it is an afterthought for IT. Like our computers still run windows 7.

          Unfortunately I need email to do my job, on a ping system for what to test and general communications with coworkers who are often not there or traveling in the field.

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          That's fair. I should have said *if you can help it.

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          • L [email protected]

            Outlook and Teams have PWAs that are actually more performant than the desktop apps (anecdotal). They are missing some features, but for the opportunity to use Linux at work, I make it work. Have to use Ubuntu for some unknown reason, but it's better than using Windows

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            For some reason our business policy doesn't allow us to use the web versions..

            Ubuntu is very popular in businesses cus it's Debian but with official enterprise support (I strongly dislike both though).

            Luckily all my work is in WSL2 Arch terminal with tmux, so it's bearable, but I miss my rice setup so much!

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              And they are all terrible and constantly getting worse.

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                Yeah no shit. Then the new ones literally have less features than the old one. Like connecting SharePoint calendars

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                In true modern Microsoft fashion. Remove features, lock forum posts of people asking for them back. Provide no reason. Profit because apparently this shit is crack to companies.

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                  My understanding is that it's called work profile. It's like having 2 users in the same phone. One is personal and you manage it. The other is company owned and you can only install apps whitelisted by your it admin.

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                  this is still objectionable

                  why does my employer presume it can commander my personal property? the only sound policy is to never let work stuff touch personal computers and vice versa. The workplace is like a gas, if you give it the empty space it will keep expanding to fill it

                  where the hell did my property rights go once one of my PCs got a radio?

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                    The data is still harvested but it stays within their own tenant.

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                    So does MS know what I look like and have my age and phone no? presumably the tenant cloud is zero-knowledge from Redmond's perspective

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                      So does MS know what I look like and have my age and phone no? presumably the tenant cloud is zero-knowledge from Redmond's perspective

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                      MS knows any data within your tenant. It doesn’t train on it or use it for other purposes outside of your tenant.

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