This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!
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CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE
Aren't a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?
How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?
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Oh, they'll do compression alright, they'll ship every asset in a dozen resolutions with different lossy compression algos so they don't need to spend dev time actually handling model and texture downscaling properly. And games will still run like crap because reasons.
Games can't really compress their assets much.
Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.
That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.
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And they’d only be like $5k each. HDD prices have gone ridiculous. I’d just like 20TB drives to be reasonably priced. 10TB drives are twice the price they were 5 years ago.
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Games can't really compress their assets much.
Stuff like textures generally use a lossless bitmap format. The compression artefacts you get with lossy formats, while unnoticable to the human eye, can cause much more visible rendering artefacts once the game engine goes to calculate how light should interact with the material.
That's not to say devs couldn't be more efficient, but it does explain why games don't really compress that well.
When I say "compress" I mean downscale. I'm suggesting they could have dozens of copies of each texture and model in a host of different resolutions (number of polygons, pixels for textures, etc), instead of handling that in the code. I'm not exactly sure how they currently do low vs medium vs high settings, just suggesting that they could solve that using a ton more data if they essentially had no limitations in terms of customer storage space.
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That's extra.
Yeah but it's not hovering or rotating unsupported in the air. The box said it was going to do that stuff. I'm pretty sure this doesn't even have any weird runes on it either
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We seem to be headed in that direction though. My most recent motherboard has built in LEDs for no practical reason other than "ooh shiny". Took me a minute to find the UEFI setting to disable that. "Stealth mode" apparently.
It's also increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to find wired mice, keyboards and headsets in that ever-increasing gulf between "all singing, all dancing, expensive gaming device full of unnecessary LEDs" and "cheap, awful, bare minimum". If it plugs in and there's a 5v rail nearby, gotta draw on that to be shiny! Anything else would be sacrilege!
I want everything wired, antennas and batteries usually don't make that stuff any better
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The image is literally just the proprietary xbox drive plugged into an xbox
I had an Xbox and it didn't do that either!!!
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I deal with large data chunks and 40TB drives are an interesting idea.... until you consider one failing
raids and arrays for these large data sets still makes more sense then all the eggs in smaller baskets
These are literally only sold by the rack to data centers.
What are you going on about?
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Best I can do is a 3.5'' inch SATA to USB adapter case with one of these tiny SSDs glued in
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Don't forget to include the hacked controller firmware that reports the drive size as triple what it actually is.
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Yeah, why aren't there any?
There are:
https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/specifications/They are just not listed in shops for poor people. (joking)
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Aren't a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?
How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?
Well, Kioxia sells a 30TB 2.5in SSD right now for about $5k. I'm sure they could make a 60+TB SSD by just stacking 2 of them in a 3.5in case.
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I still wonder, what's stopping vendors from producing "chonk store" devices. Slow, but reliable bulk storage SSDs.
Just in terms of physical space, you could easily fit 200 micro SD cards in a 2.5" drive, have everything replicated five times and end up with a reasonably reliable device (extremely simplified, I know).
I just want something for luke-warm storage that didn't require a datacenter and/or 500W continuous power draw.
Flash drives are much worse than hard drives for cold storage. The charge in flash will leak.
If you want cheap storage, back it up to another drive and unplug it.
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cool. now I can lose even more data when it dies.
no thanks...
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No thanks. I'd rather have 4TB SSDs that cost $100. We were getting close to that in 2023, but then the memory manufacturers decided to collude and jacked up prices.
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phrasing
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If you aren't running a home server with tons of storage, this product is not for you. If the price is right, 40TB to 50TB is a great upgrade path for massive storage capacity without having to either buy a whole new backplane to support more drives or build an entirely new server. I see a lot of comments comparing 4TB SSDS to 40TB HDD's so had to chime in. Yes, they make massive SSD storage arrays too, but a lot of us don't have those really deep pockets.
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There are:
https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/specifications/They are just not listed in shops for poor people. (joking)
64TB and 100TB, niiiice
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If you aren't running a home server with tons of storage, this product is not for you. If the price is right, 40TB to 50TB is a great upgrade path for massive storage capacity without having to either buy a whole new backplane to support more drives or build an entirely new server. I see a lot of comments comparing 4TB SSDS to 40TB HDD's so had to chime in. Yes, they make massive SSD storage arrays too, but a lot of us don't have those really deep pockets.
I expect many are not upgrading every small incremental improvement too. It's the 20TB HDDs that are ready to replace.
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Well, Kioxia sells a 30TB 2.5in SSD right now for about $5k. I'm sure they could make a 60+TB SSD by just stacking 2 of them in a 3.5in case.
I feel like heat would start to become a serious issue at that point.
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This is how I know I'm getting old, my first thought was "spinning rust for always on long term storage" and then I remembered it's 2025 and SSD's are about equal now.
Get off my lawn, your interrupting Matlock!
Still cheaper though. 4TB you are looking at around 3x the price for it in SSD storage. Although I wonder how the power use compares, might be worth factoring in but probably isn't too massive over it's realistic lifespan
