Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Technology
  3. This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!

This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Technology
technology
189 Posts 111 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • D [email protected]

    Same here. I initially had high hopes that my family would take advantage, but apparently my parents would rather bug my siblings monthly for their Hulu/Netflix/Max/Disney+/Prime logins than install Plex or Jellyfin lol.

    M This user is from outside of this forum
    M This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote on last edited by
    #172

    one day you will get to move out and then you can build any kind of server you want

    D 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • G [email protected]

      I mean personally, for long term data hoarding, I dislike running anything below raidz2, and imo anything less than 5 disks in that setup is just silly and inefficient in terms of cost/benefit. So I currently have 5x16TB in raidz2. The 60% capacity efficiency kinda blows, but also I didn’t want to spend any more on rust than I did at the time, and the array is still working great, so whatever. For me, that was a reasonable balance between power draw, disk count, cost, and capacity.

      M This user is from outside of this forum
      M This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote on last edited by [email protected]
      #173

      honestly though. I kinda dislike that a 40 or 50tb mechanical drive is even a thing. What we really need is larger, more affordable solid state drives. Mechanical drives have had their place, but their limits are fairly clear at this point. And your point about rebuilding an array makes that obvious. They are just too slow. This move by seagate to make ridiculously large mechanical drives, should not be the beginning, as this article suggests. It should really be the end.

      1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

        No thanks. I'd rather have 4TB SSDs that cost $100. We were getting close to that in 2023, but then the memory manufacturers decided to collude and jacked up prices.

        Z This user is from outside of this forum
        Z This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #174

        To be fair, I believe the increased pricing then was mostly due to sales, and thus production, tanking post COVID along with the big inflation for a couple of years. There was almost certainly greed from the most prominent memory makers tackedo n though.

        hark@lemmy.worldH 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • zacryon@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

          Yes, if you have money to burn, sure. I'll go with the financially better approach.

          T This user is from outside of this forum
          T This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by [email protected]
          #175

          I specifically said to go off price and availability, just have a backup because they will fail.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • M [email protected]

            one day you will get to move out and then you can build any kind of server you want

            D This user is from outside of this forum
            D This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote on last edited by
            #176

            I've been moved out for 25 years 😂

            I just hoped that my family would take advantage of me offering up my server for them to stream from.

            M 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • D [email protected]

              I've been moved out for 25 years 😂

              I just hoped that my family would take advantage of me offering up my server for them to stream from.

              M This user is from outside of this forum
              M This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote on last edited by
              #177

              lol, gotcha.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • theimpressivex@lemm.eeT [email protected]
                This post did not contain any content.
                P This user is from outside of this forum
                P This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote on last edited by
                #178

                If EA or Ubisoft don't get their shit together this won't be enough.

                1 Reply Last reply
                3
                • R [email protected]

                  …And it’s bound to be stupidly expensive.

                  Wish I could afford 20 of them, but not without winning the Powerball.

                  L This user is from outside of this forum
                  L This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #179

                  20 of them? Just curious, how would you use 800 or 1600 TB of storage?

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • P [email protected]

                    i don't mind that, if it means that lower capacity drives will get cheaper

                    L This user is from outside of this forum
                    L This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #180

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • N [email protected]

                      I have killed every single type of magnetic platter drive from every brand they are all bad

                      J This user is from outside of this forum
                      J This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #181

                      Maybe consider looking at what all those had in common... Ie you

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • M [email protected]

                        Many people can't accept that one drive model isn't going to kill a company or make everything from them bad.

                        The exception being the palladium drive. Although its not directly attributed to the fall of JTS, who at the time owned Atari. Its was clear from the frontline techs these things were absolute shit.
                        The irony is that 1 out of say 10,000 was perfect. So much so I still have one of the 1.2 gig's that still spins up and reads and writes fine.
                        Its nearly a unicorn though.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok5JTwpv5go

                        D This user is from outside of this forum
                        D This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #182

                        I had one of these, it worked perfectly for years. I might even still have it. I remember it being a significant leap in size and cost per MB.

                        M 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • D [email protected]

                          I had one of these, it worked perfectly for years. I might even still have it. I remember it being a significant leap in size and cost per MB.

                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote on last edited by [email protected]
                          #183

                          We had failure rates over 90% on them. We sold around 8000 computers on contract to the local schools that year and took a hit to our rep. We started going from school to school replacing them before they could fail.

                          The drive in the picture is dated mar 16 97. I'm pretty sure it was one of thousands of warranty replacements we received. Like I said its still good but really hasn't been in service in over 30 years. I keep it because its a reminder of how bad, bad can be.

                          JT storage went out of business in 98. When we heard they had no one was surprised.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT_Storage

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • O [email protected]

                            Oh yeah, I run spinning rust in my nas. All data storage for me is on HDDs, only OS date is on the SSD. That's for the nas and my computer.

                            K This user is from outside of this forum
                            K This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #184

                            My main data usage is game installs and pretty unimportant temporary stuff so it doesn't need backup fortunately. Game saves do of course but a simple bash script and the file size for that is tiny in comparison.

                            SSD performance would be nice to have, but costs extra.

                            O 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Z [email protected]

                              To be fair, I believe the increased pricing then was mostly due to sales, and thus production, tanking post COVID along with the big inflation for a couple of years. There was almost certainly greed from the most prominent memory makers tackedo n though.

                              hark@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                              hark@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #185

                              Memory manufacturers purposely cut production to help justify cost increases: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/memory-prices-rebound-due-to-reduced-production-increasing-demand

                              But yeah, they'll also take advantage of demand (real or imaginary) to jack up prices: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/micron-confirms-memory-price-hikes-as-ai-and-data-center-demand-surges

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • N [email protected]

                                I have killed every single type of magnetic platter drive from every brand they are all bad

                                T This user is from outside of this forum
                                T This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #186

                                Not "bad", consumable.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • K [email protected]

                                  My main data usage is game installs and pretty unimportant temporary stuff so it doesn't need backup fortunately. Game saves do of course but a simple bash script and the file size for that is tiny in comparison.

                                  SSD performance would be nice to have, but costs extra.

                                  O This user is from outside of this forum
                                  O This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #187

                                  SSDs are getting reasonable, you might want to look into it again if that's your use case.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • theimpressivex@lemm.eeT [email protected]
                                    This post did not contain any content.
                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #188

                                    You thought 50TB was it? LOL! Hold on to your butts because 53.713TB SSDs are coming! These will cost you all your vital organs at 35years of age. Brains included.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • theimpressivex@lemm.eeT [email protected]
                                      This post did not contain any content.
                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #189

                                      Can't wait to see how these 40 TB hard drives, a wonderment of technology, will be used to further shove AI down my throat.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      Reply
                                      • Reply as topic
                                      Log in to reply
                                      • Oldest to Newest
                                      • Newest to Oldest
                                      • Most Votes


                                      • Login

                                      • Login or register to search.
                                      • First post
                                        Last post
                                      0
                                      • Categories
                                      • Recent
                                      • Tags
                                      • Popular
                                      • World
                                      • Users
                                      • Groups