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The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice

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  • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

    I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

    We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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    The problem is that Microsoft is ending Win10 support so you won't be able to get updates and such (especially security updates) for the OS anymore which will ultimately lead to things breaking or being vulnerable anyway, plus if that business-critical software ever gets updated to the point where it also doesn't support win10 anymore (I've run into this in the past with XP/Vista) then you're going to have to change anyway. But you don't have to change to win11. Companies and governments all over Europe are switching their mission-critical systems to linux and FOSS, yeah it's a pain, but it's going to save you pain down the road.

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    • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

      I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

      We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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      Because either way you’re taking a risk.

      Security flaws and aging hardware are two obvious problems.

      I’d very much question why you’d use windows 10 over something better supported— maybe not Linux but at least Windows Server OS.

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        I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

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        It's because LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX

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          I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

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          It's because we've seen this post 1000 times

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          • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

            I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

            We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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            If you are running business critical applications on Windows 10 that is a problem. Windows 10 is only meant for end user machines. Other services should be running on OS's that are meant for the application such as Windows Server or server versions of Linux distros running LTS kernels.

            Not to mention, near every piece of software I've been involved with at work has required specific versions of Windows Server and whatever database it uses, if you want to upgrade the software you use, then upgrading the OS is part of the task.

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              I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

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                I thought so too, largely on the basis of some very bad experiences with ubuntu-based distributions (they seem to hate my bog-standard RTX3060 GPU for whatever reason), but in frustration I tried one last time to install a linux distro and went with something based on fedora and it has 95% just worked, it's been great. I haven't booted up windows in almost 3 weeks, all my games work (battle.net was a bit of a pain to get working), the proprietary windows software I use for work runs great in wine, etc. I'm at the point now where I'm transferring all my files off of NTFS partitions and reformatting them to btrfs and integrating them into the linux filesystem, cause I'm done with windows forever to the greatest possible extent that I can be.

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                I am greatful that Ubuntu ended up bringing the Linux desktop into the general publics eye, but at the same time out of all of the popular distro's today, I firmly believe there is always a better choice than Ubuntu for any user, new or veteran. It's just a pity that they are the most well known to people who aren't familiar with Linux while not being good at anything, although basically any Linux distro feels like fresh air when compared to the Microsoft experience.

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                  I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

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                  Yes, exactly.

                  (Kinda unrelated side note: Nobody around me is getting that all these apps are STUPID and MAKES YOU THE PRODUCT. Just why are they critisizing without even trying them?)

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                    https://endof10.org/

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                      I thought so too, largely on the basis of some very bad experiences with ubuntu-based distributions (they seem to hate my bog-standard RTX3060 GPU for whatever reason), but in frustration I tried one last time to install a linux distro and went with something based on fedora and it has 95% just worked, it's been great. I haven't booted up windows in almost 3 weeks, all my games work (battle.net was a bit of a pain to get working), the proprietary windows software I use for work runs great in wine, etc. I'm at the point now where I'm transferring all my files off of NTFS partitions and reformatting them to btrfs and integrating them into the linux filesystem, cause I'm done with windows forever to the greatest possible extent that I can be.

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                      Nvidia Linux drivers are still kinda iffy these days but so are the Windows ones too

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                        Installed Linux Mint a few months ago and have been dual booting. Hardly use Windows at all now.

                        Linux is exactly what an OS should be.

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                          What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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                            I've had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it's "end of life" don't mean shit to me. It'll keep chugging along for years more.

                            That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!

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                              I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

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                              How many laptops do you own lol?

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                                What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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                                TMP 2.0 released in October 2014, so I don't think that you can find particularly powerful systems up for grabs.

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                                  What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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                                  Unless the requirements have changed, you’re looking at 2016-2017 era. Intel 7000-series, AMD Ryzen 1000-series. Newer may be available if there’s no TPM installed.

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                                    I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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                                      The only time I use Windows is for Fusion 360

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                                        I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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                                        is there any reason why I shouldn’t just keep using it after this year?

                                        You mean aside from all the reasons not to use Windows that applied even before deprecation? 'Cause there are a fuck-ton of those.

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