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The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice

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  • L [email protected]

    I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

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    How many laptops do you own lol?

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      What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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      TMP 2.0 released in October 2014, so I don't think that you can find particularly powerful systems up for grabs.

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        What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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        Unless the requirements have changed, you’re looking at 2016-2017 era. Intel 7000-series, AMD Ryzen 1000-series. Newer may be available if there’s no TPM installed.

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          I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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            The only time I use Windows is for Fusion 360

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            • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

              I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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              is there any reason why I shouldn’t just keep using it after this year?

              You mean aside from all the reasons not to use Windows that applied even before deprecation? 'Cause there are a fuck-ton of those.

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                • N [email protected]

                  It's because LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX

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                  GNU! GNU!

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                    is there any reason why I shouldn’t just keep using it after this year?

                    You mean aside from all the reasons not to use Windows that applied even before deprecation? 'Cause there are a fuck-ton of those.

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                    Unironically, yes. I was already aware of those and take them into account

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                    • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                      I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

                      We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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                      The obvious conclusion is that Windows 10 is not fit for purpose in your business environment and the person in charge of IT procurement dun goofed picking it in the first place.

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                        wishful thinking. i mean i get where the sentiment is coming from, but normal users are going to have a lot of problems if they make that switch. especially if they need particular types of software.

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                        • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                          You would be amazed in the industrial world. There are tons of large and incredibly expensive special purpose machines that are operated by super antiquated PC architecture computers running geriatric operating systems, sometimes still even DOS or Windows 3.x.

                          Think industrial CNC mills and lathes, presses, pick-and-place machines, specialty lab testing equipment, electron microscopes, etc.

                          Process control, i.e. production line automation, is usually driven by dedicated PLCs. But the user interfaces connected to them are almost invariantly some old ruggedized panel mounted PC running Windows. An absurd number of them in my experience are still on 2000 or XP. NT4 is pretty easy to find, too.

                          Granted often these are not networked, and in cases where they are they're not connected to the internet, or may even talk to other workstations via RS-485 serial (!) or some other gimcrack method that is unlikely to be a vector for modern malware.

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                          Critically, the people who build these machines don't typically update drivers to port them to a new OS. You buy a piece of heavy equipment, investing tens, or maybe even a hundred thousand dollars, and there's an OS it works on, maybe two if you're lucky. The equipment hopefully works for at least 20 years, and basically no OS is going to maintain that kind of compatibility for that long. Linux might get the closest, but I'll bet you're compiling/patching your own kernels before 20 years is up.

                          This kind of dynamic is unavoidable when equipment vendors sell equipment which has a long usable life (which is good), and don't invest in software support (which is them being cheap, to an extent), and OSes change enough that these time horizons likely involve compatibility-breaking releases.

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                          • L [email protected]

                            The only time I use Windows is for Fusion 360

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                            I wish I could make parts in FreeCAD anywhere close to as good as I can in Fusion 360... I REALLY miss it since the move to Linux. I'm not anywhere near as excited about my 3D printer anymore since designing parts is a slog and the end result I am generally un-proud of. 😞 I feel like my only option (which sucks) is buy a second GPU for pass through and install windows 10 in a VM that only touches the internet once every 2 weeks to keep Fusion happy.

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                              If you find yourself not wanting to switch, there are third party options for patching. I'm going to try zero patch, but I have no experience with them to date.

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                                I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

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                                Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn't clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.

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                                • tfowinder@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                  I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

                                  We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

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                                  For that use Windows 10 IOT LTSC

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    It's because we've seen this post 1000 times

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                                    and yet you persist. why?

                                    (sorry, this is totally a troll)

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                                      Call me when Libre doesn't suck/feel like it's stuck in 2003.

                                      I won't hold my breath.

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                                      • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                                        I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

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                                        Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          I wish I could make parts in FreeCAD anywhere close to as good as I can in Fusion 360... I REALLY miss it since the move to Linux. I'm not anywhere near as excited about my 3D printer anymore since designing parts is a slog and the end result I am generally un-proud of. 😞 I feel like my only option (which sucks) is buy a second GPU for pass through and install windows 10 in a VM that only touches the internet once every 2 weeks to keep Fusion happy.

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                                          It’s possible to pass thru a single GPU. I followed this guide on my Fedora desktop

                                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTWf5D092VY

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