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The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice

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  • S [email protected]

    Can't wait for the "The end of Windows 11 is approaching..." article in a few years. Keep me posted.

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    Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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    • prof@infosec.pubP [email protected]

      EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

      If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

      The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

      As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

      So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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      I saw a YT video about XP being compromised. It was literally about 2-3 minutes, and it had been attacked.

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        Hahahahahaha, I still periodically see win2k/2k3 on the network at some clients, with SMBv1 enabled across the domain to make the CISO's eye twitch

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        back in 2017, the company I worked at had a win 2K server. Crazy shit. It was for a critical system (ran the phone system)

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          I saw a YT video about XP being compromised. It was literally about 2-3 minutes, and it had been attacked.

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          Yeah, we managed to recreate that in a lab. Those old OS's are super vulnerable.

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            Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

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            I've been migrating some of my clients (I do on site support for SMBs) to LTSC 2019, which gets updates until 2029.
            An added benefit is that it gets a lot less updates, essentially security updates, and comes with a lot less crap preinstalled.

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              Somehow, windows 11 is even MORE spyware than 10!

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                Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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                Nah, there'll be a new boogeyman by then.

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                  Somehow, windows 11 is even MORE spyware than 10!

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                  Now with AI! So Windows can use your processing power to record and analyze every use of your computer, and report back useful findings to MS. What data is sent back? Who knows? You certainly won't be told what 'core telemetry' is required at any point in time.

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                    How many laptops do you own lol?

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                    2, though they are both quite old

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                      Families exist. I'm the "IT guy" for 3 people using laptops

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                      They are all my personal laptops from different parts of my past, that I just never threw away when I upgraded

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                        GF recently wanted to buy Ms office because she had a nice looking CV template for it that would not work well in LibreOffice. So I spent some hours making a good one without Ms crap, just so they would not get anymore money.

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                          Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

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                          ESU also offers one year of support for non-enterprise users for $30.

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                            Also 0patch, which will continue to provide security patches for Windows 10 indefinitely.

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                              EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

                              If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

                              The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

                              As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

                              So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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                              This is what 0patch is for!

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                                Call me when Libre doesn't suck/feel like it's stuck in 2003.

                                I won't hold my breath.

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                                Look like you're already stuck in 2003

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                                • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

                                  Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn't clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.

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                                  The first paragraphs on https://endof10.org/ tell you why you should install Linux followed by telling you how to get in touch with someone who can explain things to you and even install it for you. Most of them do it free of charge. I'm not sure how you can improve on that.

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                                    LOL no. There are many good reasons choose Linux on the desktop/laptop, but the so-called Win10 apocalypse isn't in the top 10.

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                                      They are all my personal laptops from different parts of my past, that I just never threw away when I upgraded

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                                      If you keep forgetting them for another ~15-25 more years they might have value in the retro space.

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                                        I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

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                                        I'm between living locations and can't carry my desktop around.

                                        So I grabbed an old laptop and put Linux mint on it. It's been near perfect. Extremely smooth experience.

                                        It detected my printer and auto installed. I installed steam and played Terraria without issue. Small performance problem but I don't have a GPU. Even works good with my docking station.

                                        My only complaint is the audio device doesn't switch automatically when I dock/undock.

                                        I'd recommend making a USB and boot into it for a test drive.

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                                          How many laptops do you own lol?

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                                          I end up with all the "broken" laptops my family replaces after they buy new ones.

                                          I've got like 9 laptops. Active ones are my Linux one, work one (windows 11) and my wife's school one (windows 11). We both have win 10 desktops still.

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