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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

    If Google really wants to, they can crack down on yt-dlp, and I assume that if enough people are using it, they're likely to do such a crackdown. Like, this works for the moment, but...

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    I'm sure they could. Other methods will crop up. All else fails, I ditch YT altogether.

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    • S [email protected]

      I've started bulk downloading videos with yt-dlp and watching them locally. No ads or throttling to deal with.

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      I’m new to yt-dlp. Care to share your flags? I’m a little confused on which ones I actually need.

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      • redeyeflightcontrol@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        Yeah they are, I noticed it get really, really bad this week. It's an awful experience. But they'll leave my browser before my adblocker does.

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        100%. Half the time I get blocked due to VPN or whatever I just close the tab and go with my life. The rest of the time I try all known workarounds. If those fail, I just go with my life.

        My hatred for monopolisation and enshittification is stronger than my desire to watch content on any platform.

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        • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

          I saw something that might be this happening last week where every video took an extra 20 seconds to load and presented a popup that took you to the support page where the first thing listed to troubleshoot your problem was disabling ad blockers, but this week the videos are perfect and load normally; but the rest of the page is absolutely fucked. Like the "playables" section last night was tripping balls and looked like a slot machine as the entries randomly changed around at light speeds. The comments, related videos section on the right, description, etc all just refuse to load now on Firefox for me.

          Considering these issues for me have only happened recently, and coincidentally around the same time an issue with Google services took a shitton of the entire Internet down for almost a whole day, I suspect it's not about blocking ad blockers so much as it is Google just fucking sucks at implementing any changes across the board of their products.

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          Ublock origin (if your using it) "fixed" the issue shortly after. Im convinced someone at google works on adblock lol. Probably not true but the timing was really fast.

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          • M [email protected]

            My ip was blocked a LONG time ago by google for using yt-dlp. Works with VPN but nothing else. Fun times. I think I only pulled a couple of videos off for archival services. On my own channel non-the-less.

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            You might try again. I was blocked for a couple weeks after I pulled a bunch of videos from a channel using yt-dlp, and for a while YouTube required an account (which I will not get) from that IP. But a couple weeks later, things were working again.

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              I’m new to yt-dlp. Care to share your flags? I’m a little confused on which ones I actually need.

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              I mean, you don't need anything; it'll work with no flags. I have these:

              $ cat ~/.config/yt-dlp/config
              --embed-subs
              --embed-metadata
              --embed-chapters
              --embed-thumbnail
              --sponsorblock-mark=all
              $
              

              That'll just embed some useful metadata in the file.

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                I’m new to yt-dlp. Care to share your flags? I’m a little confused on which ones I actually need.

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                #20

                I'm a filthy Windows user that's too lazy to migrate my main PC to Fedora.

                > Path\to\yt-dlp.exe -P <target directory> <URL>
                

                Multiple URLs can be separated by spaces. Put any URLs with ampersands in quotes or remove the ampersand and following arguments.

                You can find a list of all the arguments on the yt-dlp github page

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                  I haven't noticed on Tubular.

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                  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                    If Google really wants to, they can crack down on yt-dlp, and I assume that if enough people are using it, they're likely to do such a crackdown. Like, this works for the moment, but...

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                    It will happen eventually. All they need to do is start new/rotating keys on wildvine and put the ads at random times right in the stream, then disable fast forward if you use it to skip ads. It'll be a UX hit, so it'll need to be worth it to them.

                    In the end, they can't stop us from HDMI capturing and using comskip to detect / remove but there are a million ways to play tag between where we are now and that which don't require people posting videos to pirate bay 🙂

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                      Oh no, where will I get my AI slop?

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                      Like it or not, YouTube still has a fuckton of good, informative tutorials and advice on how to fix things or make things made by individuals with a phone camera and no script, who make them not for money but for the pride in sharing their knowledge. I shared some fix it videos for my van and a very obscure phone, and consumed a lot of fix it videos for washing machines, motorbikes and furniture.

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                        I also think they slowed it down for firefox users.

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                          HA! Jokes on them! I'm running a budget dell PC from 10 years ago! The PC itself is slower than any delays they cause! I'm talkin' 3-5 minutes to load each video. Sometimes the whole PC freezes, and you need to unplug it. Sometimes the browser crashes right at the end, so you gotta relaunch the browser, and then wait 20 minutes for all the tabs to populate. Then you gotta end task on all the individual windows. Then you gotta reload just the tab you're looking at, and THEN you can wait 5 minutes again.

                          You think I'm even going to notice your 10 second delay?

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                            It will happen eventually. All they need to do is start new/rotating keys on wildvine and put the ads at random times right in the stream, then disable fast forward if you use it to skip ads. It'll be a UX hit, so it'll need to be worth it to them.

                            In the end, they can't stop us from HDMI capturing and using comskip to detect / remove but there are a million ways to play tag between where we are now and that which don't require people posting videos to pirate bay 🙂

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                            can't stop us from HDMI capturing

                            Look up HDCP.

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                              I've got 500Mb fiber internet and YouTube refuses to stream above 360p unless i manually change it. Which each update becomes harder and harder to do as they hide the video quality button somewhere else.

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                                I've been using this

                                https://skipcut.com/

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                                  can't stop us from HDMI capturing

                                  Look up HDCP.

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                                  There are HDMI splitter boxes you can get from China that conveniently strip out the HDCP.

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                                    Clear cache

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                                      uBlock Origin->gear icon (settings)->My Filters->add this line:

                                      ||googlevideo.com/videoplayback$xhr,3p,method=get,domain=www.youtube.com

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                                        I noticed this today

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          I've started bulk downloading videos with yt-dlp and watching them locally. No ads or throttling to deal with.

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                                          Me too. I'm up to 3TB locally. Had to do that slowly though. Hit some temp bans a few times.

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