This is madness
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This is great.
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Objectively,
Because we would be avoiding the 2 jet lag times a year which have been proven to cause deadly (traffic) accidents.
Because the other alternative of always dst means sun only gets up at 10am in winter which can negatively impact mental health (especially for children and teenagers)
Subjectively,
Because some people actually enjoy summer nights.
Because getting up on time is easier with more sunlight. And waking gradually and naturally at 5:30 beats waking forcefully by alarm at 6:30
How does keeping kids inside the whole time the sun is up improve their mental health over giving them an extra hour of sun after school that they can actually enjoy?
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As my mom always said
"If you're cold you can put on more clothes, but you can only get so naked"
I can't have warm hands and usable dexterity in winter. Only in winter can I have painfully cold, numb hands and be sweaty at the same time.
At least in summer my whole body agrees that it's warm and my hands always work properly
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How does keeping kids inside the whole time the sun is up improve their mental health over giving them an extra hour of sun after school that they can actually enjoy?
I am no psychologist but it’s about how their day night cycle develops which is very different from adults.
Daylight is one of the systems it uses to self regulate and start feeling awake.
School actually starts to soon in many places, that already a major part of it. Research (not at hand) actually show grades go up if school starts later. We basically force kids to be tired to fit our schedule and it gets worse for teens.
With delayd sunlight. They wont really be properly awake for almost half their “productive” day”.
We also know that lack of sleep is a pillar of mental health conditions, now include all the dormant mental health conditions kids already carry and with growing up in this timeline.
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I actually like that the sun doesn't set until like ten in the evening where I live. It also starts rising at 3 in the morning. I love it. I prefer this to depression season the other half of the year xS
Found the Dane
I've been to Denmark and I agree, it's great to have sun until late in the evening. It feels like you have more life after a work day.
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And it's besutiful.
For ghouls, maybe.
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Fuck the sun
No, fuck you.
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I think you're forgetting that night time is cool and day time is for losers.
People who bark about diurnal superiority are losers.
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The problem is not of stupidity, but of concerted efforts by fossil fuel lobbies to muddy the research, create anti-green propaganda, climate science denialism, hide determinant research about climate change, and lobby politicians who are against the fight on climate change.
Is the AES in your username for the Student Loan provider? lol.
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This is the amount of daylight we are evolutionarily adapted to pre-migration so "fucks with your sleeping patterns" sounds like a man made horror
The man made horror of moving out of Africa?
Alexandria during summer has about 14 hours of daylight and Johannesburg during their summer has about 13.
The Nordic Capitals have sunset some time after 21 and 18 hours of daylight now.
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Is the AES in your username for the Student Loan provider? lol.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, it's for Actually Existing Socialism, no idea what a student loan provider is, probably something too USian for me to understand. My bachelor university studies in Spain costed less than 6000€ total including tuition and the few books I had to buy, and my master's costed around 1500€. That's without any disability/income price reduction, highest price a Spaniard will pay for public university (around the mid-2010s)
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Astrophotographers be like:
Ah yes, staying up until 3am for 3 hours of good data
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Found the Dane
I've been to Denmark and I agree, it's great to have sun until late in the evening. It feels like you have more life after a work day.
wrote last edited by [email protected]then there is the winter when you casually just realize that you haven't seen the sun in weeks, maybe event months because you leave for work before the sun rises and go home after it sets and in the weekends you are inside recovering from the workweek.
But still i like to say that it takes the whole winter to yearn for the summer but it only takes one day of summer to want it to be winter again.
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And it's besutiful.
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Do you know how depressing it is to only experience the sun while at work and not outside of it in the winter?
As someone who works all day, commutes, and then has to sleep, I don't understand this viewpoint.
What am I going to do with extra daylight after work? I'm still just going home and then to bed. It's not like I'm taking an excursion to the lake at 8pm when I've got to be up at 5am to get ready for work.
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Cool, so, will you pay for me to move? Cover work while i get setyled in a new part of the world and find that?
Find me someplace i won't be murdered for personal/demographic reasons with wither i like?
All I can say to that is - can't do attitudes can't do anything. You created a list of problems, and are acting like they are unsolveable, instead of seeing them as a checklist of things to get done to obtain a better life.
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As someone who's house is entirely powered by solar, I love the long days! I also do a lot of outside work so the extra hours of daylight really help me there too
During winter it was so overcast and cloudy that I had to run a generator almost the entirety of the season
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As someone who's house is entirely powered by solar, I love the long days! I also do a lot of outside work so the extra hours of daylight really help me there too
During winter it was so overcast and cloudy that I had to run a generator almost the entirety of the season
Full solar power is the dream! That's awesome.
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I lived in Fairbanks, AK for almost three years. I've also lived in Bethel for a little over a year and spent about 6 months in Barrow. I grew up in Anchorage. If I could afford to have seasonal houses, my summer home would be in Barrow and my winter home would be in Fairbanks.
Fuck anywhere that gets above 65F at any point during the year. It's currently 62F in Anchorage and while it's bearable, it's bordering on becoming miserable.
Fuck Summer and the Sun it rode in on.
Omg we are such opposites. I grew up in FL and 60sF (15C) is winter for us. Like people will straight up wear jackets in the 60s. I love weather in the 80sF (26C), 90sF (32C) is bearable, but 100sF (37C) is horrible and stay inside as much as possible.
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As someone who works all day, commutes, and then has to sleep, I don't understand this viewpoint.
What am I going to do with extra daylight after work? I'm still just going home and then to bed. It's not like I'm taking an excursion to the lake at 8pm when I've got to be up at 5am to get ready for work.
I have no kids, work 40 h/Week and only have a 6 min bike-commute left (used to be 55 min by train from a bigger city).
So in the summer I get up at 5:50, leave for work at 6:50, start work at 7 till 16:30 and am back home at 16:40 (Fridays are shorter). I go to bed at around 23:00. In the winter i sometimes shift the whole thing back by 1 hour.So on a normal weekday I have ~6,5 hours left to cook, clean, meet friends, do sports. So yes, i am absolutely going to the lake at 8pm.
In the winter it's still dark 4 days a week, when I get home. So no visit to the lake, no long bike-tours etc... All activities that require sunlight have to take place on saturday/sunday. I could really use more sunlight in the winter.
