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UK arrests 83-year-old priest for backing Palestine Action and opposing Gaza genocide

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  • H [email protected]

    without explicitly showing your allegiance

    So you assume that there's either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?

    Sorry for using difficult words. Make simple for you now:

    • protest against Israel: Ok
    • protest for Palestinians: Good
    • support Hamas: very bad

    Understood or brain still hurt?

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    OK but where is the explicit support for Hamas that this woman was allegedly demonstrating. "Hamas" doesn't appear in the article.

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    • H [email protected]

      without explicitly showing your allegiance

      So you assume that there's either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?

      Sorry for using difficult words. Make simple for you now:

      • protest against Israel: Ok
      • protest for Palestinians: Good
      • support Hamas: very bad

      Understood or brain still hurt?

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      Where did they show support for Hamas?

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      • H [email protected]

        Or you you could just, you know.. protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

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        How did this get 5 upvotes lol

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        • B [email protected]

          OK but where is the explicit support for Hamas that this woman was allegedly demonstrating. "Hamas" doesn't appear in the article.

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          How explain word “like” simple? Difficult but I try - for you.

          • Orange like grapefruit - both fruit
          • Toyota like Ford - both car
          • Hamas like “Palestine Action” - both terrorist

          If still difficult:

          • grapefruit more sour than orange - still both fruit
          • Toyota better than Ford - both still car
          • Hamas way way worse than “Palestine Action” - still both terrorist
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          • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

            The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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            What proscription?

            Edit:

            a newly enforced ban on a pro-palestina group Palestine Action

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            • J [email protected]

              But how would I telegraph my desire to murder the Jews if I did that?

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              To simply imagine Palestine without settlers, to simply imagine a sky without drones—that, in the Zionist imagination, is genocidal. If you stick with the “want” of the charge, the notion that Palestinians want to kill all Jews, you find that Zionism is at war with our future. It is at war with our ability to articulate, even if only through poems and protest chants, a future in which Zionism does not reign. For in the past 100 years, Zionism has situated us in a condition of constant dispossession and premature death; our Nakba remains and renews. We are besieged in an inescapable, eternal present tense.

              Mohammed El-Kurd

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              • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                The Thought Police are now in your timeline

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                • H [email protected]

                  Were there people holding up signs for these in public places?

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                  As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here

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                    Where did they show support for Hamas?

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                    terrorist organizations such as Hamas

                    Can you get more bad faith?

                    Just stop using Palestinians as as guise for your love of terrorism.

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                    • H [email protected]

                      Or you you could just, you know.. protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

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                      the IOF is a terrorist organization. much bigger, more prolific and active than Hamas as well. literally a war criminal organization. funny how you never hear people getting arrested for supporting the IOF though.

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                      • H [email protected]

                        terrorist organizations such as Hamas

                        Can you get more bad faith?

                        Just stop using Palestinians as as guise for your love of terrorism.

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                        trying to stop delivering arms to a terrorist group commiting genocide: terrorism

                        commiting genocide and deliberately killing, maiming, starving and playing cruel games with the lives of civilians and literal children: not terrorism

                        talk about bad faith... fuck off with all that.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          Genocide accomplices!

                          Everyone involved with this "law" should be tried and hung in the Hague for aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.

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                          Let's not hang people in The Hague now

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                          • J [email protected]

                            No they're not. There's a difference between "Palestine Action" (the group) and "actions and other stuff in favour of Palestine". The former has been banned, the latter has not. Protesting is legal in the UK; vandalising Air Force equipment is not.

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                            Damaging equipment that is being used to conduct genocide is not vandalism, it's human fucking decency.

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                              the IOF is a terrorist organization. much bigger, more prolific and active than Hamas as well. literally a war criminal organization. funny how you never hear people getting arrested for supporting the IOF though.

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                              Are there any pro “IOF” demonstrations anywhere?

                              Holding up a sign in support of a terrorist organization will (hopefully) get you arrested.

                              You might argue that “Palestine Action” should not be defined as a terrorist organization.

                              You can hold up a sign supporting them to protest the designation. You will be arrested however. That’s just what happens.

                              Personally I’m not so sure that Palestinians will benefit from all that.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                This article is about the UK. The UK is pretty much the mothership of what we calls "the west".

                                Whining about china is deflection

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                                Whining about china

                                So guess you're paycheck doesn't come from Russia then

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                                  As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here

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                                  danke schön, brudi

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Praising a good priest is not much different than praising a good republican. You can be a good person without associating yourself to corrupted political parties or bigot cults

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                                    I understand your anger. I really do. But may I remind you that the Republicans were the ones who took a stand to abolish slavery and even died for it not that long ago really. And look at where they are now.

                                    It's people like this woman that are fencing any movement from turning corrupt and vile. Unfortunately all too often there's not enough of them to stop it from happening.

                                    She most likely saw the cloth as a way to reach and help people in need. As it is one way of doing it. And given her very advanced age, when she was young, it was probably one of the very few that existed at her disposal. Especially as a woman.

                                    And you shouldn't conflate the identity of individuals with the institutions they're a part of or with their social descriptors. That is precisely what you hate about these groups you brought up. So don't play for the opposite team and act the same way they do.

                                    And by the way, you were downvoted but I wasn't one of the ones who did it. As I do think your anger towards these institutions is absolutely warranted and justified. I feel the same way. Just don't let that keep you from recognising a decent human being when it is very much the case. Otherwise, you allowed them to turn you into what we both hate about what these institutions represent.

                                    This woman is on everyone's side because she's fighting for everyone. Even though I'm not religious, I recognise that I aspire to the same as her.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      trying to stop delivering arms to a terrorist group commiting genocide: terrorism

                                      commiting genocide and deliberately killing, maiming, starving and playing cruel games with the lives of civilians and literal children: not terrorism

                                      talk about bad faith... fuck off with all that.

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                                      Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

                                      My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                                      You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.

                                      Well done. (slow clap)

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                                        As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here

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                                        Honestly, you have way more stuff going that need to apologize for.

                                        Maybe look up Palestine Action before commenting:

                                        In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.

                                        Source: Wikipedia

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                                        • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                          The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                                          I support Palestine Action - illegal

                                          I support Action for Palestine - legal

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