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UK arrests 83-year-old priest for backing Palestine Action and opposing Gaza genocide

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  • F [email protected]

    As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here

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    danke schön, brudi

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    • B [email protected]

      Praising a good priest is not much different than praising a good republican. You can be a good person without associating yourself to corrupted political parties or bigot cults

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      #99

      I understand your anger. I really do. But may I remind you that the Republicans were the ones who took a stand to abolish slavery and even died for it not that long ago really. And look at where they are now.

      It's people like this woman that are fencing any movement from turning corrupt and vile. Unfortunately all too often there's not enough of them to stop it from happening.

      She most likely saw the cloth as a way to reach and help people in need. As it is one way of doing it. And given her very advanced age, when she was young, it was probably one of the very few that existed at her disposal. Especially as a woman.

      And you shouldn't conflate the identity of individuals with the institutions they're a part of or with their social descriptors. That is precisely what you hate about these groups you brought up. So don't play for the opposite team and act the same way they do.

      And by the way, you were downvoted but I wasn't one of the ones who did it. As I do think your anger towards these institutions is absolutely warranted and justified. I feel the same way. Just don't let that keep you from recognising a decent human being when it is very much the case. Otherwise, you allowed them to turn you into what we both hate about what these institutions represent.

      This woman is on everyone's side because she's fighting for everyone. Even though I'm not religious, I recognise that I aspire to the same as her.

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      • P [email protected]

        trying to stop delivering arms to a terrorist group commiting genocide: terrorism

        commiting genocide and deliberately killing, maiming, starving and playing cruel games with the lives of civilians and literal children: not terrorism

        talk about bad faith... fuck off with all that.

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        Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

        My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

        You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.

        Well done. (slow clap)

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        • F [email protected]

          As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here

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          #101

          Honestly, you have way more stuff going that need to apologize for.

          Maybe look up Palestine Action before commenting:

          In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.

          Source: Wikipedia

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          • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

            The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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            #102

            I support Palestine Action - illegal

            I support Action for Palestine - legal

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            • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

              The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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              Well that was quick.

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              • F [email protected]

                How did this get 5 upvotes lol

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                I think more people have alts on lemmy than we'd like to admit. Particularly when they're accounts spewing hasbara propaganda.

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                • H [email protected]

                  terrorist organizations such as Hamas

                  Can you get more bad faith?

                  Just stop using Palestinians as as guise for your love of terrorism.

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                  #105

                  Yeah, they're the ones arguing in bad faith 🙄

                  "Stop arguing in bad faith" *proceeds to immediately make the most bad faith argument I have seen in this thread*

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                  • H [email protected]

                    Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

                    My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                    You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.

                    Well done. (slow clap)

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                    #106

                    My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                    Still haven't explained where they did this but yeah they're the ones arguing in bad faith.

                    Try harder. Can I get the contact information of your handler, I think you need some additional training...

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                    • F [email protected]

                      They're calling these people terrorists for holding signs calling for the end of Israel's genocide. They're not calling the people who have been committing genocide every day terrorists: they're valuable allies. This is the UK Government's morality. I hope it's not shared by the British people.

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                      What if it is an excuse to put people that openly oppose colonialism and authority under control and fear? They maybe don't care that much for Israel but why miss this opportunity?

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                      • H [email protected]

                        How explain word “like” simple? Difficult but I try - for you.

                        • Orange like grapefruit - both fruit
                        • Toyota like Ford - both car
                        • Hamas like “Palestine Action” - both terrorist

                        If still difficult:

                        • grapefruit more sour than orange - still both fruit
                        • Toyota better than Ford - both still car
                        • Hamas way way worse than “Palestine Action” - still both terrorist
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                        What the fuck even is this comment, lol

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                        • V [email protected]

                          Technically it's because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar's Cars and believes that the poor planes can't sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.

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                          Some definitions of Terrorism also include property damage

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                          • B [email protected]

                            What really happened here: Members of this Palestine Action group sneaked onto a military base and attacked the aircrafts there. This act of politically motivated vandalism resulted in this group being officially banned by the government. Which is totally ok, no state in the world will and can tolerate some group doing acts of terrorism and/or doing sabotage.

                            Supporting banned terrorist organizations is of course also not allowed (which really makes sense) and yeah, this priest totally did that on purpose. You are therefore totally fine holding up a sign supporting Israel and you are also totally fine holding up a sign supporting Palestine, but you are not fine holding up signs supporting banned organizations.

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                            Bootlicker

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                            • H [email protected]

                              Honestly, you have way more stuff going that need to apologize for.

                              Maybe look up Palestine Action before commenting:

                              In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.

                              Source: Wikipedia

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                              vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT

                              MY WORD *clutches pearls*

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                                Some definitions of Terrorism also include property damage

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                                Well definitions can include anything and everything. They can also be debased to the point of being useless, or in the case of crimes of being the engine of witch hunts.

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

                                  My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                                  You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.

                                  Well done. (slow clap)

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                                  where'd that "must" come from? straight out of the anus I assume?

                                  i don't give a shit about what groups are "defined" as terrorist; it's a designation given by governments for political purposes, often commiting much more heinous crimes themselves and usually for the specific purpose of distracting from that fact and suppressing any opposition including what would otherwise be free speech, which is exactly what's happening here.

                                  the biggest terror organization in the world is the US Armed Forces. unless you show me people getting arrested in the UK for supporting the US you and all of you "terrorism" concern trolls can suck a bag of dicks.

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    Or you you could just, you know.. protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

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                                    Why are you talking about Hamas in a thread about Palestine Action? The two groups are not related at all and use totally different tactics (Palestine Action is explicitly non-violent).

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      How explain word “like” simple? Difficult but I try - for you.

                                      • Orange like grapefruit - both fruit
                                      • Toyota like Ford - both car
                                      • Hamas like “Palestine Action” - both terrorist

                                      If still difficult:

                                      • grapefruit more sour than orange - still both fruit
                                      • Toyota better than Ford - both still car
                                      • Hamas way way worse than “Palestine Action” - still both terrorist
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                                      Oh, I see, you think that just because the UK labeled Palestine Action a terrorist group, they actually are?

                                      …

                                      Hey, come on over, I got a bridge to sell you!

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                                      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                        The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                                        Monday: 39 dead

                                        Tuesday: 79 dead

                                        Wednesday: 79 dead

                                        Thursday: 103 dead

                                        Friday: 72 dead

                                        Saturday: 81 dead

                                        Sunday: 88 dead

                                        Another week of genocide in #Gaza.

                                        Supported by German politics, concealed by the German media, ignored by the German public.

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                                        • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                          The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                                          "Are we the baddies?"

                                          -Said exactly 0 of the cops

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