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Is the Fediverse stalling?

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  • S [email protected]

    I'd object and probably complain and it'd get your instance blacklisted. I'd support all community migrations being made publicly known - so you can see the timestamps and paper trail of a community.

    But this isn't quite the way that community migration would work here - it's not quite the same thing. You would be attempting to give the impression I am actively contributing to a community I'm not - whereas I'm talking about moving a community from instance A to B. The community for all intents and purpose is the same.

    If I posted actively to a community I do not own or moderate and they moved server and thus took my posts there with them, I wouldn't really object to that.

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    #185

    You see, this is why it's important to understand that how ActivityPub works and why we can not think only in terms of "Reddit, but federated".

    In terms of ActivityPub, a community that mirrors posts is exactly the same as someone that "retweets" a message. You may not even have realized, but it's quite possible that your posts/comments have been replicated on mastodon. Now that they are (finally) adding support for quote-posts, this will be even more common.

    What I just described to you is this "communities following communities" idea. It's not about "giving the impression" of anything, it would be openly to aggregate all content in one single place and to avoid fragmentation.

    Now, like I said in the linked discussion, I think that there is a legitimate complaint about taking content from one place and just moving it around. But at least the approach I am proposing is not fabricating anything. It's Piefed's implementation that is falsifying information. In my view, what PieFed is doing is objectively worse than a "reposting actor". Just like the "private voting" feature, it is beneficial for its own users but it's bad for the overall Fediverse.

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    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

      thanks.... learning as we go here. Run other instances for people but I have got to say for many of my clients they are seeing a massive drop in the fediverse in general after modest growth. The general consensus is that creators want to earn money rather than have freedom

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      For creators, it makes sense to favor the commercial platforms.

      For Reddit users, the Fediverse is a good enough alternative.

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      • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

        Block the meta communities

        Or use Piefed where you can create different feeds (a la multireddit): https://join.piefed.social/

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        #187

        I don't have time to curate

        They do not want to fix the problem, they want it to fix itself.

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        • timlovestech@badatbeing.socialT [email protected]

          By 2035 we could be under water, or all living in a radioactive hellscape. And the argument of paying people to use a free service breaks logic.

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          #188

          sorry mate that was a joke, not a literal statement

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          • eyekaytee@aussie.zoneE [email protected]

            sorry mate that was a joke, not a literal statement

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            #189

            All good! The internet makes it even harder to tell because I can't "read" anyone over the ether.

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            • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

              I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)

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              #190

              I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)

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              • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)

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                https://feddit.uk/ has 400 monthly active users and is as British as you can get

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  https://feddit.uk/ has 400 monthly active users and is as British as you can get

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                  #192

                  Aye it is.... but 400 users seems really small compared to others

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                  • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                    Aye it is.... but 400 users seems really small compared to others

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                    2500 monthly active users on [email protected]

                    https://feddit.uk/communities

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                    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                      I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)

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                      #194

                      That's really interesting. Australian here, and I've remarked several times how the userbase of the fediverse isn't dominated by American voices like most other social media platforms I've used.

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                      • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                        I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)

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                        It's an interesting perspective. Historically the fediverse was more European; Mastodon is based in Germany and initially got a lot of traction in France, NLNet has contributed a lot of the funding, and there's historically more adoption by European governmental organizations than US. But these days a lot of the energy is being driven by corporate interests (Flipboard, Wordpress, Meta, Ghost) which are primarily American (Ghost being the only exception), so that's leading to a change of dynamics. Distressing, especially given what's going on here in the US!

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                        • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                          I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)

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                          Feddit.UK is kinda nice as there's the little british bubble in Local

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                          • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                            I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)

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                            I think because Emperor has vanished, might be a factor

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                            • M [email protected]

                              I do generally wish there was more content. So I've decided to start actively participating rather than lurking more recently.

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                              Yeah I’m new to Lemmy, myself and this is really my only complaint. There’s some things that I’m interested in that just don’t really have an active community on here at all

                              I’m liking it here so far so I’m going to try to do the same and post more actively, I mostly lurked when I was on Reddit

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                              • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                                I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)

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                                #199

                                Kiwi here, originally European so I get content in two languages and from people with some interests in similar. Good percentage of local and international stuff generally keeps me happy. (Not too concerned/glad about overall numbers - there's no continuous growth on a finite planet)

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                                • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                                  I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)

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                                  Why does everything need to expand? I’m happy with where we are. It feels cozy.

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    That's really interesting. Australian here, and I've remarked several times how the userbase of the fediverse isn't dominated by American voices like most other social media platforms I've used.

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                                    Yes, it's nice to see German, Canadian, Australian, French and all the other instances blossom

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                                    • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB [email protected]

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                                      I'm not a mod of the feddit.uk equivalent so it's not up to me, but I'd be cautious about doing so. I have lemmy.ml blocked so I can't see their posts or comments, but I'm a bit wary about their users, it would be like redirecting a unitedkingdom community from hexbear or grad.

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                                      Yeah we can reach out to the mods there and see if they'd want to redirect to us.

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                                      Part of me also thinks that fediverse doesn't need growth for the sake of growth.
                                      That it's primary function is to be an alternative if people want to use it.

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                                      • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                        2500 monthly active users on [email protected]

                                        https://feddit.uk/communities

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                                        again - no bias but that seems tiny compared to other "things"

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                                        • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com3 [email protected]

                                          again - no bias but that seems tiny compared to other "things"

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                                          What other things? For the Fediverse, there doesn't seem to be a large UK mastodon instance: https://mastodon.fediverse.observer/list

                                          For corporate social media, is there any UK based social media?

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