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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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  • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though... Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results.. oh wait, you can't... Cause it isn't a Google Docs alternative.

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    None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

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      Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

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      Cryptpad is French, but they are using OnlyOffice, which is Russian.

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      • C [email protected]

        Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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        In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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        • zonnewin@feddit.nlZ [email protected]

          Cryptpad is French, but they are using OnlyOffice, which is Russian.

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          Fuck 😞 Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

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            Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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              The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

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              Then just use Word online.

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              • P [email protected]

                Google Docs has done very little to innovate.

                The place where I see Google Docs being far superior to any other product I've run into is collaborative work. Having multiple people writing in the same doc at the simultaneously is a train wreck in most products Office365 included. In other products there's a good chance you'll have a version conflict and someone's changes will be lost. Google docs handles that with ease.

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                I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue. I first started in college in 2006 with Onenote and it worked well even then. googol is garbage.

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                  Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                  Proprietary bullshit

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                    It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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                      Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

                      It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

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                      • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

                        Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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                        Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you're in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

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                          Then just use Word online.

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                          Not FOSS and probably not privacy friendly

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                            A bit of both I guess

                            Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

                            And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

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                            • lodra@programming.devL [email protected]

                              Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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                              I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

                              A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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                                Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                                Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

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                                  Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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                                  A good web app is awesome!

                                  But the big ones usually wants to have a native app so that they can scan your whole computer and so on. This is good news.

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                                    Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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                                    It does not work on my work-computer, since office macros and some formatting renders differently across versions. Other required software constraints make windows unusable for me.

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                                      None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

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                                      That is what I'm saying this editor is trying to be Notion, not Google Docs.

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                                        So FramaSoft is not a thing ??
                                        It's French

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                                        • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          That is what I'm saying this editor is trying to be Notion, not Google Docs.

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                                          Yes, but who said otherwise then?

                                          Oh OP made it up. Nvm.
                                          They write themselves that it is a notion alternative.

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