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UK arrests 83-year-old priest for backing Palestine Action and opposing Gaza genocide

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

    The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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    Why is the UK against people backing Mandatory Palestine?

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      True, but I wasn't aware that the RAF are currently flying sorties into any ongoing genocide.

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      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqg440v0gxo

      They are not doing the bombing in Gaza. They are protecting the ones doing the bombing in Gaza.

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      • huppakee@feddit.nlH [email protected]

        Just wondering, if I would hold up a sign with 'go isreal, continue the amazing work you do!', would that get me arrested? Surely i'd get beat up but i mean what would the lawmakers think of that? Would it be different if the sign would say 'go isreal, murder those innocent families' or 'go isreal, your genocide rules!' (am i allowed to call it a genocide if i'm not against it?)

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        in some countries even holding empty sign would lead you to arrest

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        • V [email protected]

          Well definitions can include anything and everything. They can also be debased to the point of being useless, or in the case of crimes of being the engine of witch hunts.

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          I do not believe inanimate objects can experience terror, so I also don't agree with the definition. But I don't write the laws.

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            I understand your anger. I really do. But may I remind you that the Republicans were the ones who took a stand to abolish slavery and even died for it not that long ago really. And look at where they are now.

            It's people like this woman that are fencing any movement from turning corrupt and vile. Unfortunately all too often there's not enough of them to stop it from happening.

            She most likely saw the cloth as a way to reach and help people in need. As it is one way of doing it. And given her very advanced age, when she was young, it was probably one of the very few that existed at her disposal. Especially as a woman.

            And you shouldn't conflate the identity of individuals with the institutions they're a part of or with their social descriptors. That is precisely what you hate about these groups you brought up. So don't play for the opposite team and act the same way they do.

            And by the way, you were downvoted but I wasn't one of the ones who did it. As I do think your anger towards these institutions is absolutely warranted and justified. I feel the same way. Just don't let that keep you from recognising a decent human being when it is very much the case. Otherwise, you allowed them to turn you into what we both hate about what these institutions represent.

            This woman is on everyone's side because she's fighting for everyone. Even though I'm not religious, I recognise that I aspire to the same as her.

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            I'm gonna try it again maybe this time you will understand: praising a good priest is not much different than praising a good scientologis, you can be a good person without associating yourself to a cult that threat people to believe in ghosts

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            • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

              https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqg440v0gxo

              They are not doing the bombing in Gaza. They are protecting the ones doing the bombing in Gaza.

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              You might want to re-read that article. It doesn't mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:

              "fighting between Israel and Iran"
              "protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East"
              "we've never been involved in attacking with Israel"
              "we've got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat"

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              • D [email protected]

                Monday: 39 dead

                Tuesday: 79 dead

                Wednesday: 79 dead

                Thursday: 103 dead

                Friday: 72 dead

                Saturday: 81 dead

                Sunday: 88 dead

                Another week of genocide in #Gaza.

                Supported by German politics, concealed by the German media, ignored by the German public.

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                Maybe change Germany to the country the post is related to after copy and pasting this, it's not they're the only one.

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                  The British House of Commons voted by 385 votes to 26 to add Palestine Action to the list of terrorist groups proscribed under the Terrorism Act. Maybe you want to tell us why your definition of terrorism is different from the one in the British parliament?

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                  Because they are unfairly biased in favor of Israel. The U.S. has shown its bias by denying the war crimes that every serious scholar has agreed is happening. The state of Israel itself has tried to shoehorn "criticism of the state of Israel" into the definition of antisemitism.

                  Governments will stretch and distort definitions to suit their purposes.

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                  • J [email protected]

                    You might want to re-read that article. It doesn't mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:

                    "fighting between Israel and Iran"
                    "protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East"
                    "we've never been involved in attacking with Israel"
                    "we've got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat"

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                    Oh I'm sorry, I thought the recent moves deepening the existing framework was proof enough. You want to go back instead.

                    Let's try this one: https://aje.io/78f3r5

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                      Honestly, you have way more stuff going that need to apologize for.

                      Maybe look up Palestine Action before commenting:

                      In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.

                      Source: Wikipedia

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                      oh no, not -gasp- property damage!

                      sending military equipment to explode brown children: 😊

                      vandalizing military equipment so that you can't send them to aid the genocide: 😨😠

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                      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                        The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                        Look at that diabolical criminal. I hope they reopen London tower just to hang her from it. After she bakes everyone cookies with afternoon tea.

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                          Those innocent European priests never abused anyone…. Oh wait

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                          Spotted Murican in the wild

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                            Those innocent European priests never abused anyone…. Oh wait

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                            You're right, she's 83 years old. I'm sure she saw many bad things in life and didn't speak up. Therefore, I think we can all agree it's best to ignore her now.

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                              Spotted Murican in the wild

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                              Not even close, I mean you probably colonized my people good and tried to beat the Indian out of us, for which I hold a grudge, particularly to the church. But don’t let my criticism deflect from your attempt at a strawman rant. You probably wouldn’t even be able to find my country on the map, since it’s not a white nation.

                              P.s. the Americans are the bastard children of Europe, not of my people, so don’t put that on me.

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                                Why is the UK against people backing Mandatory Palestine?

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                                I dont know exactly but they are quite fond of bringing the iran monarchy back. Maybe something something oil

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                                • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                  The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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                                  Fuck the brits'

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    Technically it's because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar's Cars and believes that the poor planes can't sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.

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                                    Also, even if a few members organize themselves to do that, that doesn't mean the entire organization supports it or is behind it.

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                                      Or you you could just, you know.. protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

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                                      Yeah why on earth would one support the only armed force defending genocidees?

                                      Dumbgerm

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                                        What really happened here: Members of this Palestine Action group sneaked onto a military base and attacked the aircrafts there. This act of politically motivated vandalism resulted in this group being officially banned by the government. Which is totally ok, no state in the world will and can tolerate some group doing acts of terrorism and/or doing sabotage.

                                        Supporting banned terrorist organizations is of course also not allowed (which really makes sense) and yeah, this priest totally did that on purpose. You are therefore totally fine holding up a sign supporting Israel and you are also totally fine holding up a sign supporting Palestine, but you are not fine holding up signs supporting banned organizations.

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                                        They threw red paint at fighter jets you dishonest cunt

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                                          The British House of Commons voted by 385 votes to 26 to add Palestine Action to the list of terrorist groups proscribed under the Terrorism Act. Maybe you want to tell us why your definition of terrorism is different from the one in the British parliament?

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                                          The british parliement is guilty of supporting genocide, who TF cares about their opinions on things.

                                          Fuck britain

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