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DOGE Plans to Rebuild SSA Codebase in Months, Risking Benefits and System Collapse

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  • E [email protected]

    Russia just wants musks boy toys to cripple the only checks and balances putin thinks he has.

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      First you need to log into your social security account. If you have never done this is can be a bit cumbersome, but better to get it figured out now than later. Then once you have been able to log in to "my Social Security" you will see a "Your Social Security Statement" on that landing page. It will allow you do download a PDF that has your projected benefit and your earnings records by work year.

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      thank you!

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      • Z [email protected]

        In theory, it wouldn't be a necessarily bad idea to port the COBOL code to something more modern, but I cannot trust Muskrat and a few vibe coder youngsters with this task.

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        If these people are good enough to redo federal codebases I should apply for a coding job already

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          How old do you think the mainframes running Social Security are?

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          Old enough to collect benefits themselves

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            Think further back. Like late 80s to 90s IBM

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            Yeah, that's what they said, 20 years or so ago

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              Yeah, that's what they said, 20 years or so ago

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              Ok this is gonna hurt. 2005 was 20 years ago

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                Gonna blow up the database as many times as they blow up SpaceX rockets.

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                • Z [email protected]

                  In theory, it wouldn't be a necessarily bad idea to port the COBOL code to something more modern, but I cannot trust Muskrat and a few vibe coder youngsters with this task.

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                  In theory it is a horrible idea. No port like this ever works out. An incremental approach has much higher chance of success but will take long.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    I've always known your world is complex, working closely with accountants and actuaries the last 4 years doing data applications further confirmed that, there's some legitimately complex math that shows up, and it's a lot of work to model that correctly.

                    "It's just a ..." Is a redflag to me, project's going to be a gongshow.

                    I find that mentality of not trying to understand the problem and its context totally counter to the engineering method.

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                    Yeah, as you've said it's not the complexity that's the problem, it's that dunning Kruger style overconfidence that you're smarter than everyone else and can manage data better than these silly accountants.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Made by IBM. We chose one of the worst company to do it.

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                      Hah. It was IBM that was running the shitshow in Queensland too.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Wont happen legacy systems more complicated than expected, well it wont happen functionally....

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                        Won't happen functionally, as it's designed to. I feel for the US citizens, they'll break it all. From Canada where they had a new system, Phoenix or something for payroll I think, it caused a lot of hassle and was probably well intentioned, unlike this, but I never read much on it.

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                        • E [email protected]

                          Russia just wants musks boy toys to cripple the only checks and balances putin thinks he has.

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                          Putin loves this but I suspect he's not directly planning every dumb thing the trump team is behind. Trying to get Musk and Trump to follow instructions is challenging

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                            Bring back lotus notes and the command line!

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                            When I started at my workplace a few years back, I had to login to lotus notes to obtain some sort of ID code. I'd never heard or seen the software before, but after opening it, I let out an audible "what the fuck is this shit". Luckily they got rid of it completely a couple of years ago.

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                              If they planned a 1 month migration of a small component, 6 months to complete would be pretty lucky imo. Refactoring Legacy Code mentions the 2.0 approach they're taking. Spoiler alert, it doesn't work...

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                              Just determining the requirements would be a nightmare.

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                                🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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                                Therapist: Stop being silly, you can't hear emojis.

                                ^ the emojis

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                                  Nah, they'll just say the Democrats are still worse because reasons

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                                  The reason is that it takes a lot of emotional intelligence and strength to admit that you have been scammed. These people will find it less emotionally painful to deny reality then admit their mistakes.

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    Yep, months is a joke, doubly so when talking about tens of millions of lines of code and also COBOL specifically.

                                    This is going to be a hilarious disaster but not so hilarious when people who need the benefits need them and won't be able to get them.

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                                    To be fair. We assume "months" means less than 2 years. But 10 years can also be "months", and is probably a more realistic timeline.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      They're really playing with fire here.

                                      So many MAGA supporters are seniors who are entirely dependent on OASDI. If Trump's minions break this, we're going to see torches and pitchforks strapped to electric scooters and golf carts coming out of Florida retirement communities in droves.

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                                      Yes. They need to move quickly. Public opinion is already shifting against Trump and Musk, and right now they are vulnerable.

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                                        I wish them luck. I hope they can. Make a good system and that it works how they want it to. Failure is a no go

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          To be fair. We assume "months" means less than 2 years. But 10 years can also be "months", and is probably a more realistic timeline.

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                                          Nobody is referring to 10 years as "months".

                                          When you're talking about multiples of years, it's going to be called years, not months. They were obviously talking about a short timeline, less than 2 years, likely less than 1 year.

                                          They have no idea what they're talking about.

                                          Like I said, months is a joke.

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