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  3. He may have been a russian asset since 2004 (I don't know either way) but it certainly was nothing to do with that SpaceX meeting.

He may have been a russian asset since 2004 (I don't know either way) but it certainly was nothing to do with that SpaceX meeting.

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    He may have been a russian asset since 2004 (I don't know either way) but it certainly was nothing to do with that SpaceX meeting. He went there to try and buy Russian rocket engines, they told him to pound sand. He was forced to do it the hard way and hire a team and they designed what are now the Falcon 9 engines.

    I don't understand why people keep making stuff up (not just this post, it's one of many), he's evil enough on the actual facts

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      He may have been a russian asset since 2004 (I don't know either way) but it certainly was nothing to do with that SpaceX meeting. He went there to try and buy Russian rocket engines, they told him to pound sand. He was forced to do it the hard way and hire a team and they designed what are now the Falcon 9 engines.

      I don't understand why people keep making stuff up (not just this post, it's one of many), he's evil enough on the actual facts

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      I see it as an extension of the myth of American purity and external corruption. "This person is evil, some outside power must have compromising info on them." "Immigrants are violent criminals preying on innocent americans."

      These attitudes ignore the reality that bad people can come from anywhere. There are plenty of villians with very mundane origin stories. What matters is if everyone else has the will and ability to keep bad people in check and hold them accountable.

      The grifters in charge need no other motivation than a sense of superiority and an opportunity to make a buck.

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        I see it as an extension of the myth of American purity and external corruption. "This person is evil, some outside power must have compromising info on them." "Immigrants are violent criminals preying on innocent americans."

        These attitudes ignore the reality that bad people can come from anywhere. There are plenty of villians with very mundane origin stories. What matters is if everyone else has the will and ability to keep bad people in check and hold them accountable.

        The grifters in charge need no other motivation than a sense of superiority and an opportunity to make a buck.

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        What matters is if everyone else has the will and ability to keep bad people in check and hold them accountable.

        Well said.

        The grifters in charge need no other motivation than a sense of superiority and an opportunity to make a buck.

        That's why corruption is an issue in every political system that we've tried, that contains more than a few thousand people.
        Always seems like the people who want to be in power, shouldn't be...and those that should want nothing to do with it...

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