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Most Americans think AI won’t improve their lives, survey says

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  • E [email protected]

    I have 47 good reasons. There's 47 good reasons are that those people in my contact list have WhatsApp and use it as their primary method of communicating.

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    SMS works fine.

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      There are exactly 0 good reasons to use whatsapp anyways...

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      Yes, there are. You just have to live in one of the many many countries in the world where the overwhelming majority of the population uses whatsapp as their communication app. Like my country. Where not only friends and family, but also businesses and government entities use WhatsApp as their messaging app. I have at least a couple hundred reasons to use WhatsApp, including all my friends, all my family members, and all my clients at work. Do I like it? Not really. Do I have a choice? No. Just like I don't have a choice on not using gmail, because that's the email provider that the company I work for decided to go with.

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        Yes, there are. You just have to live in one of the many many countries in the world where the overwhelming majority of the population uses whatsapp as their communication app. Like my country. Where not only friends and family, but also businesses and government entities use WhatsApp as their messaging app. I have at least a couple hundred reasons to use WhatsApp, including all my friends, all my family members, and all my clients at work. Do I like it? Not really. Do I have a choice? No. Just like I don't have a choice on not using gmail, because that's the email provider that the company I work for decided to go with.

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        SMS works fine in any country.

        And you can isolate your business requirements from your personal life.

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          Who the fuck needs anything related to AI on WhatsApp?

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          Lots of people. I need it because it's how my clients at work prefer to communicate with me, also how all my family members and friends communicate.

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          • C [email protected]

            It‘s too expensive for society already as it has stolen work from millions to even be trained with millions more to come. We literally cannot afford to work for free when the rich already suck up all that productivity increase we‘ve gained over the last century.

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            I disagree. While intellectual property legally exists, ethically there’s no reason to be protective of it.

            Information should be a shared resource for everyone, and all these open weights models are a good example of that in action.

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              SMS works fine.

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              #96

              No it doesn't. It's slow, can't send files, can't send video or images, doesn't have read receipts or away notifications. Why would I use an inferior tool?

              Why do you even care anyway?

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                US experts who work in artificial intelligence fields seem to have a much rosier outlook on AI than the rest of us.

                In a survey comparing views of a nationally representative sample (5,410) of the general public to a sample of 1,013 AI experts, the Pew Research Center found that "experts are far more positive and enthusiastic about AI than the public" and "far more likely than Americans overall to believe AI will have a very or somewhat positive impact on the United States over the next 20 years" (56 percent vs. 17 percent). And perhaps most glaringly, 76 percent of experts believe these technologies will benefit them personally rather than harm them (15 percent).

                The public does not share this confidence. Only about 11 percent of the public says that "they are more excited than concerned about the increased use of AI in daily life." They're much more likely (51 percent) to say they're more concerned than excited, whereas only 15 percent of experts shared that pessimism. Unlike the majority of experts, just 24 percent of the public thinks AI will be good for them, whereas nearly half the public anticipates they will be personally harmed by AI.

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                All it took was for us to destroy our economy using it to figure that out!

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                  Maybe it’s because the American public are shortsighted idiots who don’t understand the concepts like future outcomes are based on present decisions.

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                  "Everyone else is an idiot but me, I'm the smartest."

                  lmao ok guy

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                    My understanding is that the cotton gin led to more slavery as cotton production became more profitable. The machine could process cotton but not pick it, so more hands were needed for field work.

                    Wiki:

                    The invention of the cotton gin caused massive growth in the production of cotton in the United States, concentrated mostly in the South. Cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. As a result, the region became even more dependent on plantations that used black slave labor, with plantation agriculture becoming the largest sector of its economy.[35] While it took a single laborer about ten hours to separate a single pound of fiber from the seeds, a team of two or three slaves using a cotton gin could produce around fifty pounds of cotton in just one day.[36] The number of slaves rose in concert with the increase in cotton production, increasing from around 700,000 in 1790 to around 3.2 million in 1850."

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                    That is also true, the cotton gin wasn't the total economic turning point, and the Civil War pre-dated automation's economic turning of the corner against some economic measures of slavery's cost, but slavery has very difficult to quantify costs, it was an entrenched lifestyle much more than a pool of day labor hanging out at Home Depot waiting for work, where both employers and employees could easily change their ways on very short notice.

                    After the Civil War it looks like "free person" cotton harvesting labor persisted until about 1926 - that could have changed earlier, but farm owners needed a kick in the butt to figure out how to improve:

                    https://www.printmag.com/creative-voices/lessons-from-cottons-slow-motion-robot-takeover/

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                    • N [email protected]

                      Even if you're not "out of work", your work becomes more chaotic and less fulfilling in the name of productivity.

                      When I started 20 years ago, you could round out a long day with a few hours of mindless data entry or whatever. Not anymore.

                      A few years ago I could talk to people or maybe even write a nice email communicating a complex topic. Now chatGPT writes the email and I check it.

                      It's just shit honestly. I'd rather weave baskets and die at 40 years old of a tooth infection than spend an additional 30 years wallowing in self loathing and despair.

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                      30 years ago I did a few months of 70 hour work weeks, 40 doing data entry in the day, then another 30 stocking grocery shelves in the evening - very different kinds of work and each was kind of a "vacation" from the other. Still got old quick, but it paid off the previous couple of months' travel / touring with no income.

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                      • G [email protected]

                        I use AI for programming questions, because it's easier than digging 1h through official docs (if they exists) and frustrating trial and error.

                        However quite often the ai answers are wrong by inserting nonsense code, using for instead of foreach or trying to access variables that are not always set.

                        Yes it helps, but it's usually only 60% right.

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                        I used to do this, but not anymore. The amount of time I have to spend to verify it and correct it sometimes takes longer than if I were just to do it myself, and the paranoia that comes with it isn’t worth the time for me anymore.

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                          US experts who work in artificial intelligence fields seem to have a much rosier outlook on AI than the rest of us.

                          In a survey comparing views of a nationally representative sample (5,410) of the general public to a sample of 1,013 AI experts, the Pew Research Center found that "experts are far more positive and enthusiastic about AI than the public" and "far more likely than Americans overall to believe AI will have a very or somewhat positive impact on the United States over the next 20 years" (56 percent vs. 17 percent). And perhaps most glaringly, 76 percent of experts believe these technologies will benefit them personally rather than harm them (15 percent).

                          The public does not share this confidence. Only about 11 percent of the public says that "they are more excited than concerned about the increased use of AI in daily life." They're much more likely (51 percent) to say they're more concerned than excited, whereas only 15 percent of experts shared that pessimism. Unlike the majority of experts, just 24 percent of the public thinks AI will be good for them, whereas nearly half the public anticipates they will be personally harmed by AI.

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                          So far AI has only aggravated me by interrupting my own online activities.

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                          • E [email protected]

                            No it doesn't. It's slow, can't send files, can't send video or images, doesn't have read receipts or away notifications. Why would I use an inferior tool?

                            Why do you even care anyway?

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                            Meta directly opposes the collective interests and human rights of all working class people, so I think the better question is how come you don't care.

                            There are 47 good reasons to not use WhatsApp.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              "Everyone else is an idiot but me, I'm the smartest."

                              lmao ok guy

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                              Yeah maybe if your present decisions were smarter you would be even smarter in the future and could agree with his incredibly smart argument. Make better present decisions.

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                                US experts who work in artificial intelligence fields seem to have a much rosier outlook on AI than the rest of us.

                                In a survey comparing views of a nationally representative sample (5,410) of the general public to a sample of 1,013 AI experts, the Pew Research Center found that "experts are far more positive and enthusiastic about AI than the public" and "far more likely than Americans overall to believe AI will have a very or somewhat positive impact on the United States over the next 20 years" (56 percent vs. 17 percent). And perhaps most glaringly, 76 percent of experts believe these technologies will benefit them personally rather than harm them (15 percent).

                                The public does not share this confidence. Only about 11 percent of the public says that "they are more excited than concerned about the increased use of AI in daily life." They're much more likely (51 percent) to say they're more concerned than excited, whereas only 15 percent of experts shared that pessimism. Unlike the majority of experts, just 24 percent of the public thinks AI will be good for them, whereas nearly half the public anticipates they will be personally harmed by AI.

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                                For once, most Americans are right.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  AI is changing the landscape of our society. It's only "destroying" society if that's your definition of change.

                                  But fact is, AI makes every aspect where it's being used a lot more productive and easier. And that has to be a good thing in the long run. It always has.

                                  Instead of holding against progress (which is impossible to do for long) you should embrace it and go from there.

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                                  The worry is deeper than just different changes in production. Not all progress is good, think of the broken branches of the evolution.
                                  The fact that us don't teach kids how to write already took a lot of different childhood development and later brain development and memory improvement out of the run.
                                  Qith ai now drawing, writing and music became a single sentence prompt. So why keep all those things? Why literally waste time developing a skill that you can not sell? Sure for fun...
                                  And you are bringing up efficiency. Efficiency is just a buzzword that big companies are using to replace human labor. How much more efficient is a bank where you have 4 machine and one human teller? Or a fast food restaurant where the upfront employee just delivers the food to the counter and you can only place order with a computer.
                                  There is a point where our monkey brains can't compete and won't be able to exist without human to human stuff. But I don't need to worry in 2 years we will be not able to differentiate between ai and humans. And we can just fake that connection for the rest of our efficient lifes.
                                  I'm not against improving stuff, but qhere this is focused won't help us in the long run...

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                                    I disagree. While intellectual property legally exists, ethically there’s no reason to be protective of it.

                                    Information should be a shared resource for everyone, and all these open weights models are a good example of that in action.

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                                    Prepare to die on that hill I guess because this couldn‘t be further of what is happening right now. Copyright exists but only for top oligarchs.

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                                      US experts who work in artificial intelligence fields seem to have a much rosier outlook on AI than the rest of us.

                                      In a survey comparing views of a nationally representative sample (5,410) of the general public to a sample of 1,013 AI experts, the Pew Research Center found that "experts are far more positive and enthusiastic about AI than the public" and "far more likely than Americans overall to believe AI will have a very or somewhat positive impact on the United States over the next 20 years" (56 percent vs. 17 percent). And perhaps most glaringly, 76 percent of experts believe these technologies will benefit them personally rather than harm them (15 percent).

                                      The public does not share this confidence. Only about 11 percent of the public says that "they are more excited than concerned about the increased use of AI in daily life." They're much more likely (51 percent) to say they're more concerned than excited, whereas only 15 percent of experts shared that pessimism. Unlike the majority of experts, just 24 percent of the public thinks AI will be good for them, whereas nearly half the public anticipates they will be personally harmed by AI.

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                                      https://www.sesame.com/research/crossing_the_uncanny_valley_of_voice#demo

                                      Try this voice AI demo, then imagine if it can create images and video.

                                      This in my opinion changes every system of information gathering that we have, and will usher in an era of geniuses, who grew up with access to the answer to their every question in a granular pictorial video response.

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                                        The first thing seen at the top of WhatsApp now is an AI query bar. Who the fuck needs anything related to AI on WhatsApp?

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                                        Android Messages and Facebook Messenger also pushed in AI as 'something you can chat with'

                                        I'm not here to talk to your fucking chatbot I'm here to talk to my friends and family.

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                                          https://www.sesame.com/research/crossing_the_uncanny_valley_of_voice#demo

                                          Try this voice AI demo, then imagine if it can create images and video.

                                          This in my opinion changes every system of information gathering that we have, and will usher in an era of geniuses, who grew up with access to the answer to their every question in a granular pictorial video response.

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                                          Holy shit, that AI chat is too good.

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