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Most Americans think AI won’t improve their lives, survey says

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  • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

    The first thing seen at the top of WhatsApp now is an AI query bar. Who the fuck needs anything related to AI on WhatsApp?

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    Right?! It's literally just a messenger, honestly, all I expect from it is that it's an easy and reliable way of sending messages to my contacts. Anything else is questionable.

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      More like asking the slaves about productivity advances in slavery. "Nothing good will come of this".

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      See also; the cotton gin.

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      • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        The first thing seen at the top of WhatsApp now is an AI query bar. Who the fuck needs anything related to AI on WhatsApp?

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        Who the fuck needs anything related to AI on WhatsApp?

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          Replacing people is a good thing. It means less people do more work. It means progress. It means products and services will get cheaper and more available.

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          Great for people getting fired or finding that now the jobs they used to have that were middle class are now lower class pay or obsolete. They will be so delighted at the progress despite their salaries and employment benefits and opportunities falling.

          And it's so nice that AI is most concentrated in the hands of billionaires who are oh so generous with improving living standards of the commoners. Wonderful.

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            Everyone gains from progress. We've had the same discussion over and over again. When the first sewing machines came along, when the steam engine was invented, when the internet became a thing. Some people will lose their job every time progress is made. But being against progress for that reason is just stupid.

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            I'm not sure at this point. The sewing machine was just automated stitching. It is more similar to Photos and landscape painters, only it is worse.
            With the creative AI basically most of the visual art skills went to "I'm going to pay 100$ for AI to do this instead 20K and waiting 30 days for the project". Soon doctors, therapists and teachers will look down the barrel. "Why pay for one therapy session for 150 or I can have an AI friend for 20 a month".
            In the past you were able to train yourself to use sewing machine or learn how to operate cameras and develop photos. Now I don't even have any idea where it goes.

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              This is exactly the result. No matter how advanced AI gets, unless the singularity is realized, we will be no closer to some kind of 8-hour workweek utopia. These AI Silicon Valley fanatics are the same ones saying that basic social welfare programs are naive and un-implementable - so why would they suddenly change their entire perspective on life?

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              This vision of the AI making everything easier always leaves out the part where nobody has a job as a result.

              Sure you can relax on a beach, you have all the time in the world now that you are unemployed. The disconnect is mind boggling.

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                Everyone gains from progress. We've had the same discussion over and over again. When the first sewing machines came along, when the steam engine was invented, when the internet became a thing. Some people will lose their job every time progress is made. But being against progress for that reason is just stupid.

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                And as someone who has extensively set up such systems on their home server.. yeah it's a great google home replacement, nothing more. It's beyond useless on Powerautomate which I use (unwillingly) at my job. Copilot can't even parse and match items from two lists. Despite my company trying its damn best to encourage "our own" (chatgpt enterprise) AI, nobody i have talked with has found a use.

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                  And as someone who has extensively set up such systems on their home server.. yeah it's a great google home replacement, nothing more. It's beyond useless on Powerautomate which I use (unwillingly) at my job. Copilot can't even parse and match items from two lists. Despite my company trying its damn best to encourage "our own" (chatgpt enterprise) AI, nobody i have talked with has found a use.

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                  You're using it wrong then. These tools are so incredibly useful in software development and scientific work. Chatgpt has saved me countless hours. I'm using it every day. And every colleague I talk to agrees 100%.

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                    I'm not sure at this point. The sewing machine was just automated stitching. It is more similar to Photos and landscape painters, only it is worse.
                    With the creative AI basically most of the visual art skills went to "I'm going to pay 100$ for AI to do this instead 20K and waiting 30 days for the project". Soon doctors, therapists and teachers will look down the barrel. "Why pay for one therapy session for 150 or I can have an AI friend for 20 a month".
                    In the past you were able to train yourself to use sewing machine or learn how to operate cameras and develop photos. Now I don't even have any idea where it goes.

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                    AI is changing the landscape of our society. It's only "destroying" society if that's your definition of change.

                    But fact is, AI makes every aspect where it's being used a lot more productive and easier. And that has to be a good thing in the long run. It always has.

                    Instead of holding against progress (which is impossible to do for long) you should embrace it and go from there.

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                      Great for people getting fired or finding that now the jobs they used to have that were middle class are now lower class pay or obsolete. They will be so delighted at the progress despite their salaries and employment benefits and opportunities falling.

                      And it's so nice that AI is most concentrated in the hands of billionaires who are oh so generous with improving living standards of the commoners. Wonderful.

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                      This is collateral damage of societal progress. This is a phenomenon as old as humanity. You can't fight it. And it has brought us to where we are now. From cavemen to space explorers.

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                        You're using it wrong then. These tools are so incredibly useful in software development and scientific work. Chatgpt has saved me countless hours. I'm using it every day. And every colleague I talk to agrees 100%.

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                        Then you must know something the rest of us don't. I've found it marginally useful, but it leads me down useless rabbit holes more than it helps.

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                          You're using it wrong then. These tools are so incredibly useful in software development and scientific work. Chatgpt has saved me countless hours. I'm using it every day. And every colleague I talk to agrees 100%.

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                          I'll admit my local model has given me some insight, but in researching more of something, I find the source it likely spat it out from. Now that's helpful, but I feel as though my normal search experience wasn't so polluted with AI written regurgitation of the next result down, I would've found the nice primary source. One example was a code block that computes the inertial moment of each rotational axis of a body. You can try searching for sources and compare what it puts out.

                          If you have more insight into what tools, especially more i can run local that would improve my impression, i would love to hear. However my opinion remains AI has been a net negative on the internet as a whole (spam, bots, scams, etc) thus far, and certainly has not and probably will not live up to the hype that has been forecast by their CEOs.

                          Also if you can get access to powerautomate or at least generally know how it works, Copilot can only add nodes seemingly in a general order you specify, but does not connect the dataflow between the nodes (the hardest part) whatsoever. Sometimes it will parse the dataflow connections and return what you were searching for (ie a specific formula used in a large dataflow), but not much of which seems necessary for AI to be doing.

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                            US experts who work in artificial intelligence fields seem to have a much rosier outlook on AI than the rest of us.

                            In a survey comparing views of a nationally representative sample (5,410) of the general public to a sample of 1,013 AI experts, the Pew Research Center found that "experts are far more positive and enthusiastic about AI than the public" and "far more likely than Americans overall to believe AI will have a very or somewhat positive impact on the United States over the next 20 years" (56 percent vs. 17 percent). And perhaps most glaringly, 76 percent of experts believe these technologies will benefit them personally rather than harm them (15 percent).

                            The public does not share this confidence. Only about 11 percent of the public says that "they are more excited than concerned about the increased use of AI in daily life." They're much more likely (51 percent) to say they're more concerned than excited, whereas only 15 percent of experts shared that pessimism. Unlike the majority of experts, just 24 percent of the public thinks AI will be good for them, whereas nearly half the public anticipates they will be personally harmed by AI.

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                            Maybe that's because every time a new AI feature rolls out, the product it's improving gets substantially worse.

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                              This is collateral damage of societal progress. This is a phenomenon as old as humanity. You can't fight it. And it has brought us to where we are now. From cavemen to space explorers.

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                              Which are separate things from people's ability to financially support themselves.

                              People can have smartphones and tech the past didn't have, but be increasingly worse off financially and unable to afford housing.

                              And you aren't a space explorer.

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                                Maybe that's because every time a new AI feature rolls out, the product it's improving gets substantially worse.

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                                Maybe that's because they're using AI to replace people, and the AI does a worse job.

                                Meanwhile, the people are also out of work.

                                Lose - Lose.

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                                  Everyone gains from progress. We've had the same discussion over and over again. When the first sewing machines came along, when the steam engine was invented, when the internet became a thing. Some people will lose their job every time progress is made. But being against progress for that reason is just stupid.

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                                  being against progress for that reason is just stupid.

                                  Under the current economic model, being against progress is just self-preservation.

                                  Yes, we could all benefit from AI in some glorious future that doesn't see the AI displaced workers turned into toys for the rich, or forgotten refuse in slums.

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                                    I'm not sure at this point. The sewing machine was just automated stitching. It is more similar to Photos and landscape painters, only it is worse.
                                    With the creative AI basically most of the visual art skills went to "I'm going to pay 100$ for AI to do this instead 20K and waiting 30 days for the project". Soon doctors, therapists and teachers will look down the barrel. "Why pay for one therapy session for 150 or I can have an AI friend for 20 a month".
                                    In the past you were able to train yourself to use sewing machine or learn how to operate cameras and develop photos. Now I don't even have any idea where it goes.

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                                    Machine stitching is objectively worse than hand stitching, but... it's good enough and so much more efficient, so that's how things are done now; it has become the norm.

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                                      AI is changing the landscape of our society. It's only "destroying" society if that's your definition of change.

                                      But fact is, AI makes every aspect where it's being used a lot more productive and easier. And that has to be a good thing in the long run. It always has.

                                      Instead of holding against progress (which is impossible to do for long) you should embrace it and go from there.

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                                      AI makes every aspect where it’s being used a lot more productive and easier.

                                      AI makes every aspect where it's being used well a lot more productive and easier.

                                      AI used poorly makes it a lot easier to produce near worthless garbage, which effectively wastes the consumers' time much more than any "productivity gained" on the producer side.

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                                        And as someone who has extensively set up such systems on their home server.. yeah it's a great google home replacement, nothing more. It's beyond useless on Powerautomate which I use (unwillingly) at my job. Copilot can't even parse and match items from two lists. Despite my company trying its damn best to encourage "our own" (chatgpt enterprise) AI, nobody i have talked with has found a use.

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                                        AI search is occasionally faster and easier than slogging through the source material that the AI was trained on. The source material for programming is pretty weak itself, so there's an issue.

                                        I think AI has a lot of untapped potential, and it's going to be a VERY long time before people who don't know how to ask it for what they want will be able to communicate what they want to an AI.

                                        A lot of programming today gets value from the programmers guessing (correctly) what their employers really want, while ignoring the asks that are impractical / counterproductive.

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                                          You're using it wrong then. These tools are so incredibly useful in software development and scientific work. Chatgpt has saved me countless hours. I'm using it every day. And every colleague I talk to agrees 100%.

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                                          If you were too lazy to read three Google search results before, yes... AI is amazing in that it shows you something you ask for without making you dig as deep as you used to have to.

                                          I rarely get a result from ChatGPT that I couldn't have skimmed for myself in about twice to five times the time.

                                          I frequently get results from ChatGPT that are just as useless as what I find reading through my first three Google results.

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