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Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

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  • P [email protected]

    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

    Then retrain on that.

    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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    tedde@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Unironically Orwellian

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    • P [email protected]

      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

      Then retrain on that.

      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

      Source.

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      I'm just seeing bakes in the lies.

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      • S [email protected]

        Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source of information for anything regarding contemporary politics or economics.

        Wikipedia presents the views of reliable sources on notable topics. The trick is what sources are considered "reliable" and what topics are "notable", which is why it's such a poor source of information for things like contemporary politics in particular.

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        asdf

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        • S [email protected]

          Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source of information for anything regarding contemporary politics or economics.

          Wikipedia presents the views of reliable sources on notable topics. The trick is what sources are considered "reliable" and what topics are "notable", which is why it's such a poor source of information for things like contemporary politics in particular.

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          asdf

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          • R [email protected]

            I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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            An interesting thought experiment: I think he's full of shit, you think he's full of himself. Maybe there's a "theory of everything" here somewhere. E = shit squared?

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            • P [email protected]

              We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

              Then retrain on that.

              Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

              Source.

              ::: spoiler More Context

              Source.

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              softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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              I remember when I learned what corpus meant too

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              • N [email protected]

                Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

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                Uh, just a thought. Please pardon, I'm not an Elon shill, I just think your argument phrasing is off.

                How would you know there are holes in understanding, without logic. How would you remedy gaps of understanding in human knowledge, without the application of logic to find things are consistent?

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                  asdf

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                  Again, read the rest of the comment. Wikipedia very much repeats the views of reliable sources on notable topics - most of the fuckery is in deciding what counts as "reliable" and "notable".

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                    Again, read the rest of the comment. Wikipedia very much repeats the views of reliable sources on notable topics - most of the fuckery is in deciding what counts as "reliable" and "notable".

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                    asdf

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                    • why0y@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                      Uh, just a thought. Please pardon, I'm not an Elon shill, I just think your argument phrasing is off.

                      How would you know there are holes in understanding, without logic. How would you remedy gaps of understanding in human knowledge, without the application of logic to find things are consistent?

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                      You have to have data to apply your logic too.

                      If it is raining, the sidewalk is wet. Does that mean if the sidewalk is wet, that it is raining?

                      There are domains of human knowledge that we will never have data on. There’s no logical way for me to 100% determine what was in Abraham Lincoln’s pockets on the day he was shot.

                      When you read real academic texts, you’ll notice that there is always the “this suggests that,” “we can speculate that,” etc etc. The real world is not straight math and binary logic. The closest fields to that might be physics and chemistry to a lesser extent, but even then - theoretical physics must be backed by experimentation and data.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                        Then retrain on that.

                        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                        Source.

                        ::: spoiler More Context

                        Source.

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                        The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

                        Sources (unordered):

                        • What is model collapse?
                        • AI models collapse when trained on recursively generated data
                        • Large Language Models Suffer From Their Own Output: An Analysis of the Self-Consuming Training Loop
                        • Collapse of Self-trained Language Models

                        Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                          Then retrain on that.

                          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                          Source.

                          ::: spoiler More Context

                          Source.

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                          which has advanced reasoning

                          No it doesn't.

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                          • C [email protected]

                            Yes. There will be no websites only AI and apps. You will be automatically logged in to the apps. Linux, Lemmy will be baned. We will be classed as hackers and criminals. We probably have to build our own mesh network for communication or access it from a secret location.

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                            Can't stop the signal.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                              Then retrain on that.

                              Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                              Source.

                              ::: spoiler More Context

                              Source.

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                              if you won't tell my truth I'll force you to acknowledge my truth.

                              nothing says abusive asshole more than this.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                Then retrain on that.

                                Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                Source.

                                ::: spoiler More Context

                                Source.

                                Source.
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                                Is he still carrying his little human shield around with him everywhere or can someone Luigi this fucker already?

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                                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                  Nothing that has been demonstrated makes me think these chatbots should be allowed to rewrite human history what the fuck?!

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                                  That's not what I said. It's absolutely dystopian how Musk is trying to tailor his own reality.

                                  What I did say (and I've been doing AI research since the AlexNet days...) is that LLMs aren't old school ML systems, and we're at the point that simply scaling up to insane levels has yielded results that no one expected, but it was the lowest hanging fruit at the time. Few shot learning -> novel space generalization is very hard, so the easiest method was just take what is currently done and make it bigger (a la ResNet back in the day).

                                  Lemmy is almost as bad as reddit when it comes to hiveminds.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                    Then retrain on that.

                                    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                    Source.

                                    ::: spoiler More Context

                                    Source.

                                    Source.
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                                    Yes please do that Elon, please poison grok with garbage until full model collapse.

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                                    • W [email protected]

                                      To be fair, your brain is a pattern-matching system.

                                      When you catch a ball, you’re not doing the physics calculations in your head- you’re making predictions based on an enormous quantity of input. Unless you’re being very deliberate, you’re not thinking before you speak every word- your brain’s predictive processing takes over and you often literally speak before you think.

                                      Fuck LLMs- but I think it’s a bit wild to dismiss the power of a sufficiently advanced pattern-matching system.

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                                      I said literally this in my reply, and the lemmy hivemind downvoted me. Beware of sharing information here I guess.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                        Then retrain on that.

                                        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                        Source.

                                        ::: spoiler More Context

                                        Source.

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                                        “Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                          Then retrain on that.

                                          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                          Source.

                                          ::: spoiler More Context

                                          Source.

                                          Source.
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                                          Instead, he should improve humanity by dying. So much easier and everyone would be so much happier.

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