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Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

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  • P [email protected]

    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

    Then retrain on that.

    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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    Fuck Elon Musk

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    • P [email protected]

      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

      Then retrain on that.

      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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      Yes! We should all wholeheartedly support this GREAT INNOVATION! There is NOTHING THAT COULD GO WRONG, so this will be an excellent step to PERMANENTLY PERFECT this WONDERFUL AI.

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      • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        That's not how knowledge works. You can't just have an LLM hallucinate in missing gaps in knowledge and call it good.

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        SHH!! Yes you can, Elon! recursively training your model on itself definitely has NO DOWNSIDES

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        • M [email protected]

          We will take the entire library of human knowledge, cleans it, and ensure our version is the only record available.

          The only comfort I have is knowing anything that is true can be relearned by observing reality through the lense of science, which is itself reproducible from observing how we observe reality.

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          Have some more comfort

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          • P [email protected]

            We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

            Then retrain on that.

            Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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            Huh. I'm not sure if he's understood the alignment problem quite right.

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            • V [email protected]

              What the fuck? This is so unhinged. Genuine question, is he actually this dumb or he's just saying complete bullshit to boost stock prices?

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              my guess is yes.

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              • F [email protected]

                I read about this in a popular book by some guy named Orwell

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                Wasn't he the children's author who published the book about a talking animals learning the value of hard work or something?

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                • P [email protected]

                  We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                  Then retrain on that.

                  Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                  Source.

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                  remember when grok called e*on and t**mp a nazi? good times

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                  • P [email protected]

                    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                    Then retrain on that.

                    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                    Source.

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                    Dude wants to do a lot of things and fails to accomplish what he says he's doing to do or ends up half-assing it. So let him take Grok and run it right into the ground like an autopiloted Cybertruck rolling over into a flame trench of an exploding Startship rocket still on the pad shooting flames out of tunnels made by the Boring Company.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                      Then retrain on that.

                      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                      Source.

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                      Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

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                      • J [email protected]

                        The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

                        Sources (unordered):

                        • What is model collapse?
                        • AI models collapse when trained on recursively generated data
                        • Large Language Models Suffer From Their Own Output: An Analysis of the Self-Consuming Training Loop
                        • Collapse of Self-trained Language Models

                        Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

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                        It's not so simple, there are papers on zero data 'self play' or other schemes for using other LLM's output.

                        Distillation is probably the only one you'd want for a pretrain, specifically.

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                          asdf

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                          You had started to make a point, now you are just being a dick.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Wasn't he the children's author who published the book about a talking animals learning the value of hard work or something?

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                            The very one!

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                            • P [email protected]

                              We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                              Then retrain on that.

                              Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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                              So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

                              Typical and expected.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                Then retrain on that.

                                Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                Source.

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                                He knows more ... about knowledge... than... anyone alive now

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

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                                  It's pretty obvious where the white genocide "bug" came from.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                    Then retrain on that.

                                    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                    Source.

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                                    So just making shit up.

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      “Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

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                                      And the adding missing information doesn't. Isn't that just saying we are going to make shit up.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

                                        Typical and expected.

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                                        I mean, this is the same guy who said we'd be living on Mars in 2025.

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                                          asdf

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                                          Books are not immune to being written by LLMs spewing nonsense, lies, and hallucinations, which will only make more traditional issue of author/publisher biases worse. The asymmetry between how long it takes to create misinformation and how long it takes to verify it has never been this bad.

                                          Media literacy will be very important going forward for new informational material and there will be increasing demand for pre-LLM materials.

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