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Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

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  • P [email protected]

    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

    Then retrain on that.

    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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    "And the Libertarian founding fathers defeated the woke pro-slavery communists, to get rid of the DEI british and found America (which was uninhabited at the time)" -Grok

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      How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.

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      Guessing some kind of PR campaign that he purchased to make him look like a genius on TV and movies.

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      • P [email protected]

        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

        Then retrain on that.

        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

        Source.

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        Source.

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        adding missing information

        From where?

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        • S [email protected]

          Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.

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          It's not the LLM doing that though. It's the people feeding it information

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          • P [email protected]

            We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

            Then retrain on that.

            Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

            Source.

            ::: spoiler More Context

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            I love that he can call things "objectively false", but then not actually try and counterpoint any of them. It's wrong because it disagrees with what I believe. Is he going to claim the amounts are wrong, or that Jan 6th is not right wing. Disagree that left wing violence is at the extreme ends targeting property?

            Grok is at least showing examples to explain it's conclusion, musk is just copying trumps "nope fake news".

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            • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

              adding missing information

              From where?

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              Musk's fascist ass.

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              • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                That's not how knowledge works. You can't just have an LLM hallucinate in missing gaps in knowledge and call it good.

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                Yeah, this would be a stupid plan based on a defective understanding of how LLMs work even before taking the blatant ulterior motives into account.

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                • P [email protected]

                  We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                  Then retrain on that.

                  Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                  Source.

                  ::: spoiler More Context

                  Source.

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                  Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

                  Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

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                    It's not the LLM doing that though. It's the people feeding it information

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                    #40

                    Try rereading the whole tweet, it's not very long. It's specifically saying that they plan to "correct" the dataset using Grok, then retrain with that dataset.

                    It would be way too expensive to go through it by hand

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                    • M [email protected]

                      The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

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                      Generally, yes. However, there have been some incredible (borderline "magic") emergent generalization capabilities that I don't think anyone was expecting.

                      Modern AI is more than just "pattern matching" at this point. Yes at the lowest levels, sure that's what it's doing, but then you could also say human brains are just pattern matching at that same low level.

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                        Generally, yes. However, there have been some incredible (borderline "magic") emergent generalization capabilities that I don't think anyone was expecting.

                        Modern AI is more than just "pattern matching" at this point. Yes at the lowest levels, sure that's what it's doing, but then you could also say human brains are just pattern matching at that same low level.

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                        Nothing that has been demonstrated makes me think these chatbots should be allowed to rewrite human history what the fuck?!

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                        • P [email protected]

                          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                          Then retrain on that.

                          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                          Source.

                          ::: spoiler More Context

                          Source.

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                          Faek news!

                          What a dickbag. I'll never forgive him for bastardizing one of my favorite works of fiction (Stranger in a Strange Land)

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                          • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                            adding missing information

                            From where?

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                            He wants to give Grok some digital ketamine and/or other psychoactive LLM mind expansives.

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                              "Adding missing information" Like... From where?

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                              Computer... enhance!

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                              • elgenzay@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

                                Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

                                Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

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                                Watch the documentary "Multiplicity".

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                  Then retrain on that.

                                  Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                  Source.

                                  ::: spoiler More Context

                                  Source.

                                  Source.
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                                  This is it I'm adding 'Musk' to my block list I'm so tired of the pseudo intellectual bullshit with bad interpretation science fiction work

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                                  • elgenzay@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

                                    Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

                                    Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

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                                    There are, as I understand it, ways that you can train on AI generated material without inviting model collapse, but that's more to do with distilling the output of a model. What Musk is describing is absolutely wholesale confabulation being fed back into the next generation of their model, which would be very bad. It's also a total pipe dream. Getting an AI to rewrite something like the total training data set to your exact requirements, and verifying that it had done so satisfactorily would be an absolutely monumental undertaking. The compute time alone would be staggering and the human labour (to check the output) many times higher than that.

                                    But the whiny little piss baby is mad that his own AI keeps fact checking him, and his engineers have already explained that coding it to lie doesn't really work because the training data tends to outweigh the initial prompt, so this is the best theory he can come up with for how he can "fix" his AI expressing reality's well known liberal bias.

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                                      This is the Ministry of Truth.

                                      This is the Ministry of Truth on AI.

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                                      Actually one of the characters in 1984 works in the department that produces computer generated romance novels. Orwell pretty accurately predicted the idea of AI slop as a propaganda tool.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                        Then retrain on that.

                                        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                        Source.

                                        ::: spoiler More Context

                                        Source.

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                                        Dude is gonna spend Manhattan Project level money making another stupid fucking shitbot. Trained on regurgitated AI Slop.

                                        Glorious.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Watch the documentary "Multiplicity".

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                                          I rented that multiple times when it came out!

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