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Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

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  • elgenzay@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

    Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

    Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

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    #63

    Musk probably heard about "synthetic data" training, which is where you use machine learning to create thousands of things that are typical-enough to be good training data. Microsoft uses it to take documents users upload to Office365, train the ML model, and then use that ML output to train an LLM so they can technically say "no, your data wasn't used to train an LLM." Because it trained the thing that trained the LLM.

    However, you can't do that with LLM output and stuff like... History. WTF evidence and documents are the basis for the crap he wants to add? The hallucinations will just compound because who's going to cross-check this other than Grok anyway?

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    • P [email protected]

      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

      Then retrain on that.

      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

      Source.

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      #64

      I think most AI corp tech bros do want to control information, they just aren't high enough on Ket to say it out loud.

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      • P [email protected]

        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

        Then retrain on that.

        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

        Source.

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        Most if not all leading models use synthetic data extensively to do exactly this. However, the synthetic data needs to be well defined and essentially programmed by the data scientists. If you don't define the data very carefully, ideally math or programs you can verify as correct automatically, it's worse than useless. The scope is usually very narrow, no hitchhikers guide to the galaxy rewrite.

        But in any case he's probably just parroting whatever his engineers pitched him to look smart and in charge.

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        • K [email protected]

          Leme guess. The holocaust was a myth is first on his list.

          He should just goto hell early.

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          #66

          Just one of those errors to be deleted.

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          • M [email protected]

            If we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.

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            #67

            At this point a significant part of the country would decide to airstrike US primary schools to stop wasting money and indoctrinating kids.

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            • K [email protected]

              Leme guess. The holocaust was a myth is first on his list.

              He should just goto hell early.

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              #68

              He should just goto hell early.

              He's going to Mars as soon as FSD on Tesla is ready, next year for sure!, to not blow in his rocket then once there chat with his amazing chatbot telling him, with 20min delay for each message, that he truly is the best.

              What an absolute retard.

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              • B [email protected]

                It's not the LLM doing that though. It's the people feeding it information

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                #69

                Yes.

                He wants to prompt grok to rewrite history according to his worldview, then retrain the model on that output.

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                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                  Nothing that has been demonstrated makes me think these chatbots should be allowed to rewrite human history what the fuck?!

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                  #70

                  Tech bros see zero value in humanity beyond how it can be commodified.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                    Then retrain on that.

                    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                    Source.

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                    Source.

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                    #71

                    So "Deleting errors" meaning rewriting history, further fuckin' up facts and definitely sowing hatred and misinformation. Just call it like it is, techbro‘s new reality. 🖕🏻

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                    • P [email protected]

                      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                      Then retrain on that.

                      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                      Source.

                      ::: spoiler More Context

                      Source.

                      Source.
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                      #72

                      We will take the entire library of human knowledge, cleans it, and ensure our version is the only record available.

                      The only comfort I have is knowing anything that is true can be relearned by observing reality through the lense of science, which is itself reproducible from observing how we observe reality.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                        Then retrain on that.

                        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                        Source.

                        ::: spoiler More Context

                        Source.

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                        "If we take this 0.84 accuracy model and train another 0.84 accuracy model on it that will make it a 1.68 accuracy model!"

                        ~Fucking Dumbass

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                        • P [email protected]

                          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                          Then retrain on that.

                          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                          Source.

                          ::: spoiler More Context

                          Source.

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                          #74

                          Good thing he's not trying to rewrite the Human Animus, because that's how you end up losing Deimos.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                            Then retrain on that.

                            Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                            Source.

                            ::: spoiler More Context

                            Source.

                            Source.
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                            Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

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                            • P [email protected]

                              We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                              Then retrain on that.

                              Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                              Source.

                              ::: spoiler More Context

                              Source.

                              Source.
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                              #76

                              So where will Musk find that missing information and how will he detect "errors"?

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                              • P [email protected]

                                We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                Then retrain on that.

                                Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                Source.

                                ::: spoiler More Context

                                Source.

                                Source.
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                                When you think he can't be more of a wanker with an ameba brain.... He surprises you

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                                • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                  Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

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                                  #78

                                  We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                    Then retrain on that.

                                    Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                    Source.

                                    ::: spoiler More Context

                                    Source.

                                    Source.
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                                    #79

                                    Every single endeavor that musk is involved in, is toxic af. He, and all of this businesses, are cancers metastasizing within our society. We really should remove them.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                      Then retrain on that.

                                      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                      Source.

                                      ::: spoiler More Context

                                      Source.

                                      Source.
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                                      Because neural networks aren't known to suffer from model collapse when using their output as training data. /s

                                      Most billionaires are mediocre sociopaths but Elon Musk takes it to the "Emperors New Clothes" levels of intellectual destitution.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        If we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.

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                                        #81

                                        More guns?

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                          Then retrain on that.

                                          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                          Source.

                                          ::: spoiler More Context

                                          Source.

                                          Source.
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                                          #82

                                          What a loser. He'll keep rewriting it until it fits his world-view

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