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Should English stay the lingua franca of Europe?

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  • S [email protected]

    Having a big economy who's inhabitants never have to invest time into learn another language is a huge advantage for this economy. It's not a level playing field. Today there is no reason to still support English. In Europe we should use Esperanto or another easy to learn equivalent.

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    Today there is no reason to still support English

    This forum bringing together people from different countries, is in itself proof that there is a reason. Many people are already comfortable if not fluid in the language. How many folks speak Esperanto already?

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      There were many lingua francas of which French was supposedly the first global lingua franca. That changed and it became English (from what I understand). We will probably see another language become the lingua franca, so my question is: should it be English? Are there better candidates out there? Why / why not?

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      Yes, cause many people do speak "broken" english and its compared to french or other languages easy to learn.

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        Only in the region you have control over. Example, EU decides French is the new lingua Franca. That doesn't mean China, India or the US will start learning French. If they don't then it isn't really the lingua franca.

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        Of course that is a limitation.

        While we're at it we could also mention that like with a lot of things you can control, this is also a thing you don't have absolute control over. But with majority consensus you can teach whatever language and really focus a lot of hours on it, and it's significantly more likely to be a successful widely spoken language that serves as the lingua franca.

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          Yeah but Arabic is much cooler than English.

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          Could you explain why? Is there something about the language that makes it cool?

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            Only in the region you have control over. Example, EU decides French is the new lingua Franca. That doesn't mean China, India or the US will start learning French. If they don't then it isn't really the lingua franca.

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            The thread is "Should English stay the lingua franca of Europe?".

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              Irish? Isn't it called Gaelic?

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              Gaelic is the language family and includes Scottish, Welsh, and another language I believe (Brittain from Brittainy?). Kind of like how Spanish and French are romance languages or English and German are Germanic languages.

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                Could you explain why? Is there something about the language that makes it cool?

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                It sounds badass

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                  It sounds badass

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                  Opinions really differ on that 🤣 And every language has rich vocab.

                  I was kinda expecting something along the lines of linguistics e.g Arabic has no gender, the script is alphasyllabic, it's Subject Object Verb, sentences have strict structure, or something like that. Just a personal opinion isn't really convincing, unfortunately.

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                    It's not a happenstance, the British colonized half the planet and refused to conduct government business in anything other than English. Then the US decided to play world police and economic hegemon. Europe followed as a matter of financial necessity duo to globalization.

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                    If history had taken a different turn here or there. It could have easily been French or German or Dutch. In "our timeline" it happened to be the British Empire.

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                      Opinions really differ on that 🤣 And every language has rich vocab.

                      I was kinda expecting something along the lines of linguistics e.g Arabic has no gender, the script is alphasyllabic, it's Subject Object Verb, sentences have strict structure, or something like that. Just a personal opinion isn't really convincing, unfortunately.

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                      Nah I mean I have some friends and they told me a camel has like 50 different names depending on how old it is and what it’s doing right now, e.g. a female camel who gave birth three months ago or a sitting camel or a camel that drinks an unusual amount of water (I’m making up stuff rn) would have their own names. Or here’s a list of date cultivars, there are like tens of names for the different types of dates it wild: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_date_cultivars

                      Otherwise I was honestly just kidding. It’s an interesting question but realistically it’s gonna be English and imo kids should learn English from kindergarten on and people would be bilingual like in India, or Kurds, Amazigh, Sudanese people who are native speakers in Arabic and their own local language. We could have all administration EU wide be bilingual too and that would honestly make it so much easier for everyone to move around and also for migrants that we desperately need to come here.

                      But with fascism being cool again I‘m afraid we’re moving far away from what I have in mind.

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                        The thread is "Should English stay the lingua franca of Europe?".

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                        Whoops, deleted 🙂

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                          It's definitely "der Joghurt" tho.

                          fite me

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                            ahahaha this must be one of those rare cases where Duden is wrong 😅

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                              Try the server: Feddit.org, there are some groups in German.

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                              Thank you so much I joined there and it’s my main account now. Everyone is so nice. I hope you have a great week. 🙂

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                                Thank you so much I joined there and it’s my main account now. Everyone is so nice. I hope you have a great week. 🙂

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                                You're welcome.

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