Plex is increasing Plex Pass prices and paywalling remote playback for personal media at $1.99/month or $19.99/year.
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I tried Jelly Fin last month based on a thread here and it was a damned dumpster fire. As bad a Plex is for remote streaming, JF is far worse for the average person.
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Jellyfin works fine on PS4, I use it all the time. Just have to open it in the browser.
So you open the ps4 browser and use the controller to type in the address each time? Sounds like a pain in the dick honestly.
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So you open the ps4 browser and use the controller to type in the address each time? Sounds like a pain in the dick honestly.
Only had to do it once. I don't exactly do a lot of browsing on the PS4 so it stays open to Jellyfin when I open the browser app. Usually just have to hit the back arrow to close out of whatever I watched last and then I'm back at the main menu/Jellyfin homepage or whatever you'd call it to choose the next thing to watch.
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Only had to do it once. I don't exactly do a lot of browsing on the PS4 so it stays open to Jellyfin when I open the browser app. Usually just have to hit the back arrow to close out of whatever I watched last and then I'm back at the main menu/Jellyfin homepage or whatever you'd call it to choose the next thing to watch.
Gotcha, does that stay after you restart the ps4?
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Jellyfin is so much better anyway. I used plex for years and it has steadily enshitified.
Could you explain why you feel that Jellyfin is a lot better? I’ve seen lots of folks saying it lately, but as someone with an unraid server running plex to back up and view my music and movie collections for years, I don’t get it. I’ve tried Jellyfin twice now. The most recent time was a couple of months ago. While it is good, I honestly have a hard time seeing what makes it much better than Plex. While I disagree with a number of things Plex has done, I still recommend it to friends who want a personal media server or place to rip and backup their CDs to. It’s still the easiest to setup and most intuitive imo. Am I just missing something?
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Gotcha, does that stay after you restart the ps4?
Yep, always opens back up to whatever I watched last.
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Could you explain why you feel that Jellyfin is a lot better? I’ve seen lots of folks saying it lately, but as someone with an unraid server running plex to back up and view my music and movie collections for years, I don’t get it. I’ve tried Jellyfin twice now. The most recent time was a couple of months ago. While it is good, I honestly have a hard time seeing what makes it much better than Plex. While I disagree with a number of things Plex has done, I still recommend it to friends who want a personal media server or place to rip and backup their CDs to. It’s still the easiest to setup and most intuitive imo. Am I just missing something?
The most infuriating thing about Plex for me was when they shifted to force you to start with their BS streaming service at open. I only used Plex for my personal media collection. So having to jump through a bunch of menus to get to the only thing I want to use in their app was the biggest reason to switch for me. Maybe there is a way to fix that, but I could never find one.
Jellyfin just does your personal media library and opens right up into it when the app starts. Its simpler, faster, and FOSS.
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Yep, always opens back up to whatever I watched last.
Nice, I'll have to try it out
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I've since switched to jellyfin, but I initially chose plex because it was the only option with a client for Tizen. It certainly felt native but very well could just be a web app.
What's wrong with progressive web apps tho? If every device has a browser why bother writing native code for an app that doesn't need it? A single code stream for numerous platforms is a win if you ask me.
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Until they remove or add something that this tier doesn't get.
Jellyfin is the future.
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So the media that I host is now no longer streamable when I am outside my home network? The fuck?
That's my server, my bandwidth, my electricity and they are blocking it?
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I like how no one is mentioning that they removed the one time fees for their mobile apps to be able to play media at all. Also, only the server owner needs Plex Pass and anyone they share with can stream for free.
They are removing it to make money from a subscription instead. You're making it sound like they are doing something good!
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Plex still has more features and is a more mature product. However, the Plex ship is on fire and people should be looking to move away before it sinks.
Fuck Plex.
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Duckdns is not stable enough. You'll have downtime multiple times a year.
It was my go to dynamic DNS provider for years, but after noticing that it would take a good few seconds for my Jellyfin instance (among all the other stuff I self host) to load, I traced the issue down to duck DNS taking too long to resolve.
I switched to using ddclient in docker which updates my own domain's records on Cloud flare with my dynamic IP. Now things load instantly.
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Deceptive title. If the person hosting the server has Plex pass then it's still free for other users to use remote playback.
I have Plex running but this change means I can no longer access my own shit remotely with paying for their shitty sub.
Thankfully Jellyfin is here. Plex can fuck right off.
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Jellyfin is so much better anyway. I used plex for years and it has steadily enshitified.
Agreed. Started out in Plex when j knew nothing about self hosting, very quickly made the switch to Jellyfin and haven't looked back. If I'm hosting my media, storing it locally, and running my own server, I'm much better off not integrating the software of some company that feels entitled to bleed some extra revenue from me.
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So they think it's acceptable to charge people to access their own files. Good Luck with that morons.
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Jellyfin is so much better anyway. I used plex for years and it has steadily enshitified.
Honestly I've tried jellyfin and I have a hard time agreeing with this for a few reasons:
- UI generally more unresponsive than Plex;
- changes to correct a show/movie being assigned the wrong show/movie metadata very slow to propagate if at all, same for changing other library options like title language preference;
- generally slower to buffer and get into videos;
- very rough android lollipop UI;
- not as easy to set up tech illiterate friends for play together.
I'll give you that morally jellyfin is less customer-adverse than Plex management is at the moment and it is more open in some ways so you can have more plugins and add-ons that Plex lacks, and sure it's a free product so it should be given some leeway, but if I just listened to all of the people saying jellyfin is just so much better I'd think it was an objectively better offering, but it's not. When it comes to what I care about, it fell short, so just giving my 2 cents. Still worth trying, considering you can just point it to the same media folders, but yeah not god's gift on earth.
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I had that problem when i first started using jellyfin- I would have to give my users some sort of default login which I couldn't trust them to actually go and change within jellyfin. And then when someone forgot their password, they'd have to ask me to manually reset their password, and until then they couldn't use their account.
My solution was to use the jellyfin LDAP auth plugin with an lldap docker container, so once I set up my users' accounts, they have to do the password reset process themselves to initially set their password, and the only info I need from them is their preferred username and email address. Makes sure they're familiar with the password reset process as well, and now if I get any questions/support requests related to passwords, I can simply direct them to the lldap password reset page.
It also makes it much easier to offer extra services such as mastodon and NextCloud which support LDAP, so users can manage their logins on all platforms from a central place.
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Honestly I've tried jellyfin and I have a hard time agreeing with this for a few reasons:
- UI generally more unresponsive than Plex;
- changes to correct a show/movie being assigned the wrong show/movie metadata very slow to propagate if at all, same for changing other library options like title language preference;
- generally slower to buffer and get into videos;
- very rough android lollipop UI;
- not as easy to set up tech illiterate friends for play together.
I'll give you that morally jellyfin is less customer-adverse than Plex management is at the moment and it is more open in some ways so you can have more plugins and add-ons that Plex lacks, and sure it's a free product so it should be given some leeway, but if I just listened to all of the people saying jellyfin is just so much better I'd think it was an objectively better offering, but it's not. When it comes to what I care about, it fell short, so just giving my 2 cents. Still worth trying, considering you can just point it to the same media folders, but yeah not god's gift on earth.
i’ve had none of those issues and i’ve been a jellyfin user for the past 5 years or so, but I do use containers for the server.
Android client is not great, but there are alternatives like Findroid, which is pretty great.
Last point is literally a couple of clicks. You just need to understand what libraries are and how to add them.
