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Plex is increasing Plex Pass prices and paywalling remote playback for personal media at $1.99/month or $19.99/year.

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  • ? Guest

    Same here. I have it installed, but I'm resistant to managing other people's passwords.

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    #164

    I had that problem when i first started using jellyfin- I would have to give my users some sort of default login which I couldn't trust them to actually go and change within jellyfin. And then when someone forgot their password, they'd have to ask me to manually reset their password, and until then they couldn't use their account.

    My solution was to use the jellyfin LDAP auth plugin with an lldap docker container, so once I set up my users' accounts, they have to do the password reset process themselves to initially set their password, and the only info I need from them is their preferred username and email address. Makes sure they're familiar with the password reset process as well, and now if I get any questions/support requests related to passwords, I can simply direct them to the lldap password reset page.

    It also makes it much easier to offer extra services such as mastodon and NextCloud which support LDAP, so users can manage their logins on all platforms from a central place.

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    • J [email protected]

      Honestly I've tried jellyfin and I have a hard time agreeing with this for a few reasons:

      • UI generally more unresponsive than Plex;
      • changes to correct a show/movie being assigned the wrong show/movie metadata very slow to propagate if at all, same for changing other library options like title language preference;
      • generally slower to buffer and get into videos;
      • very rough android lollipop UI;
      • not as easy to set up tech illiterate friends for play together.

      I'll give you that morally jellyfin is less customer-adverse than Plex management is at the moment and it is more open in some ways so you can have more plugins and add-ons that Plex lacks, and sure it's a free product so it should be given some leeway, but if I just listened to all of the people saying jellyfin is just so much better I'd think it was an objectively better offering, but it's not. When it comes to what I care about, it fell short, so just giving my 2 cents. Still worth trying, considering you can just point it to the same media folders, but yeah not god's gift on earth.

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      iโ€™ve had none of those issues and iโ€™ve been a jellyfin user for the past 5 years or so, but I do use containers for the server.

      Android client is not great, but there are alternatives like Findroid, which is pretty great.

      Last point is literally a couple of clicks. You just need to understand what libraries are and how to add them.

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      • J [email protected]

        Honestly I've tried jellyfin and I have a hard time agreeing with this for a few reasons:

        • UI generally more unresponsive than Plex;
        • changes to correct a show/movie being assigned the wrong show/movie metadata very slow to propagate if at all, same for changing other library options like title language preference;
        • generally slower to buffer and get into videos;
        • very rough android lollipop UI;
        • not as easy to set up tech illiterate friends for play together.

        I'll give you that morally jellyfin is less customer-adverse than Plex management is at the moment and it is more open in some ways so you can have more plugins and add-ons that Plex lacks, and sure it's a free product so it should be given some leeway, but if I just listened to all of the people saying jellyfin is just so much better I'd think it was an objectively better offering, but it's not. When it comes to what I care about, it fell short, so just giving my 2 cents. Still worth trying, considering you can just point it to the same media folders, but yeah not god's gift on earth.

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        Thats fair. I haven't really noticed any of those issues. For my use case of just organizing and streaming my desktop's media library to my TV, its fantastic.

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          I installed Plex a couple years ago and when I found I actually had to sign into their servers to access my own content it was immediately uninstalled. It was only a matter of time before they pulled this kind of shit.

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          #167

          This was my exact experience as well. I'll never know how Plex compares to Jellyfin because I immediately noped out when I ran into the account creation.

          Frankly baffling to me that anyone with the wherewithal to self host thought that was okay.

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          • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

            So they think it's acceptable to charge people to access their own files. Good Luck with that morons.

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            I pay a dude to access his files ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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              I pay a dude to access his files ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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              As long as their not Plex's files I see no Issue that they should be compensated for.

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                Guess it's time I listen to all those jellyfin Fanboys

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                • S [email protected]

                  They are removing it to make money from a subscription instead. You're making it sound like they are doing something good!

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                  Before everyone had to pay for the apps. Im not saying this change is good but itโ€™s also not all bad.

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                    I tried Jelly Fin last month based on a thread here and it was a damned dumpster fire. As bad a Plex is for remote streaming, JF is far worse for the average person.

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                    Why not try emby it works fine no?

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                      That blows. I just use the Plex app on my TV for free streaming channels. 24/7 Top Gear reruns FTW!

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                        That blows. I just use the Plex app on my TV for free streaming channels. 24/7 Top Gear reruns FTW!

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                        Right now Iโ€™m watching Jeremy Clarkson drive a Peel P50 through a BBC office space.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          There are 2 types of "free". Liberty, and price. "Free as in beer" means they mean the price version of the word. It's a really old saying now.

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                          Isn't this confusing, though? It's free, as in libre (open-source AND costs no money). "As in beer" implies some sort of restriction.

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                          • soapbox1858@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                            Jellyfin is so much better anyway. I used plex for years and it has steadily enshitified.

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                            I tried jellyfin but didn't like it. Currently using emby and it works well.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              So the media that I host is now no longer streamable when I am outside my home network? The fuck?

                              That's my server, my bandwidth, my electricity and they are blocking it?

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                              That's enshittification for ya.

                              Meanwhile, all "lifetime pass" holders are encouraging this, while they have no skin in the game.

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                                Think I'd rather pay that towards the development of Jellyfin

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                                  You bought a lifetime subscription. Are you dead?

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                                  The word "lifetime", when talking about permanent subscriptions, always refers to the lifetime of the service (or provider), rather than the lifetime of the subscriber.

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                                    Yea as expected

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                                      Think I'd rather pay that towards the development of Jellyfin

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                                      I used to curse and scream at my jellyfin software and apps, now I swear by them.

                                      I took a day out of my life, not even a full day lol, and just watched countless YouTube videos on how to set it up and how to customize it how I like.

                                      Now it's my absolute favorite. I'm learning about building a home server and all that jazz now and I feel nostalgic, like a kid building his first computer lol!

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                                      • soapbox1858@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                        Thats fair. I haven't really noticed any of those issues. For my use case of just organizing and streaming my desktop's media library to my TV, its fantastic.

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                                        Oh don't get me wrong it does the job and if I didn't already have a lifetime Plex pass I'd highly consider it over Plex for being free, I just don't think it does it better than Plex (with a Plex pass)

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          I highly doubt that. Neither instance has permission to alter the files, that's managed separately. Neither instance has any interaction with the other. Jellyfish is fine for playback thus far, but it has shortcomings on library management and client app spread.

                                          Just because you've been lucky enough to not encounter them, has nothing to do with whether issues or shortcomings exist. I'm glad you like Jellyfish and that anecdotally it works well for you, but you don't have to blindly defend it and make up excuses for why it doesn't work as well as plex in some cases or work as well for other people's situations.

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                                          could be an issue recognizing the show on jellyfin's side. I would recommend labeling the folder with the tvdbid and re-adding it.

                                          https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/media/shows/

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