Plex is increasing Plex Pass prices and paywalling remote playback for personal media at $1.99/month or $19.99/year.
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I installed Plex a couple years ago and when I found I actually had to sign into their servers to access my own content it was immediately uninstalled. It was only a matter of time before they pulled this kind of shit.
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I see Jellyfin suggested as an alternative to Plex here. I hope it is one day.
At the moment it’s nowhere close.
I’ve been running Jellyfin side-by-side Plex for two years and it’s still not a viable replacement for anyone but me. Parents, my partner, none of the possible solutions for them come anywhere near close to the usability of Plex.
That will likely change because plex is getting worse every day. More noise, more useless features.
But at the moment it really isn’t close for most folks who are familiar with the slickness of commercial apps.
Even from the administrative side, Jellyfin takes massively more system resources and it doesn’t reliably work with all my files.
Again, Jellyfin will get there it’s just not a drop in replacement for most folks yet.
And for context I started my DIY streaming / hosting life with a first gen Apple TV (pretty much a Mac mini with component video outs) that eventually got XBMC and then Boxee installed on it. I even have the forksaken Boxee box.
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I need client side apps and easily sharing libraries with remote friends. Both are pretty hard to give up and not quite there yet.
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Jellyfin looks pretty bad on an iPad. Subtitles setting keep getting reset on their own, it doesn’t understand basic keyboard controls (spacebar to pause), the UI is overall tiny. Oftentimes it will forget to save the spot where I finished watching and on the next launch will happily play the movie from beginning.
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These seem like reasonable changes
They are updating the app at some point, which is removing the watch together feature. I wonder what else may disappear.
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It’s this sort of fiddly stuff that gives me pause with Jellyfin. And the fact that people say their apps aren’t that good.
I’m not the sort of nerd who wants to fiddle with plugins or hook my laptop up to every TV in the house.
But I’ll give it a try just to see.
Jellyfin did some work on integrating the Skip Intros plugin a lot better, AFAIK you just have to enable it once on your server and then once in the settings of all Jellyfin web players.
As for apps, there are some good native third party apps which I mentioned here.
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The only thing Plex has on Jellyfin are client apps. Sever-side… Jellyfin hands down. I was super surprised to see av1 transcoding support… In Plex we JUST got HEVC.
I’m not hating on Plex by any means, but when I have an issue with Plex, Jellyfin picks up the slack. I’ll be using Jellyfin full time after the ATV app re-write.
I am curious, though, what is it that makes you think Jellyfin’s software is inferior? Since I’ve been following, Jellyfin has released new features long before Plex.
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Todays word of the day is.....Enshitification!
.. with 3 Ts
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People gotta justify their jobs!
There's enough work without them going all social.
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I see Jellyfin suggested as an alternative to Plex here. I hope it is one day.
At the moment it’s nowhere close.
I’ve been running Jellyfin side-by-side Plex for two years and it’s still not a viable replacement for anyone but me. Parents, my partner, none of the possible solutions for them come anywhere near close to the usability of Plex.
That will likely change because plex is getting worse every day. More noise, more useless features.
But at the moment it really isn’t close for most folks who are familiar with the slickness of commercial apps.
Even from the administrative side, Jellyfin takes massively more system resources and it doesn’t reliably work with all my files.
Again, Jellyfin will get there it’s just not a drop in replacement for most folks yet.
And for context I started my DIY streaming / hosting life with a first gen Apple TV (pretty much a Mac mini with component video outs) that eventually got XBMC and then Boxee installed on it. I even have the forksaken Boxee box.
I mean, that’s like, your opinion man… I prefer Jellyfin.
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I see Jellyfin suggested as an alternative to Plex here. I hope it is one day.
At the moment it’s nowhere close.
I’ve been running Jellyfin side-by-side Plex for two years and it’s still not a viable replacement for anyone but me. Parents, my partner, none of the possible solutions for them come anywhere near close to the usability of Plex.
That will likely change because plex is getting worse every day. More noise, more useless features.
But at the moment it really isn’t close for most folks who are familiar with the slickness of commercial apps.
Even from the administrative side, Jellyfin takes massively more system resources and it doesn’t reliably work with all my files.
Again, Jellyfin will get there it’s just not a drop in replacement for most folks yet.
And for context I started my DIY streaming / hosting life with a first gen Apple TV (pretty much a Mac mini with component video outs) that eventually got XBMC and then Boxee installed on it. I even have the forksaken Boxee box.
jellyfin > plex
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If the server you are streaming from has a pass you don't need to pay
You already needed the pass to share with your friends
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I mean, that’s like, your opinion man… I prefer Jellyfin.
But that’s exactly my point - we here in this bubble prefer Jellyfin - but it’s not ready for mass adoption. Even plex is a drop in the bucket.
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Does Jellyfin have remote play? I've had a lifetime PP for years now, but most of my users don't. I will be installing Jellyfin tomorrow to run parallel until it can be a full replacement, or just forever.
I just was asking someone on here a few weeks back if switching off Plex while already having a PP was worth it. I think the gist was no rush since it's working, but this news is my canary.
As long as you have PP, users streaming remotely from your server can do so without PP (or the mobile app unlock). The client user charge is only for accessing servers that don’t have PP. Still insane they’re charging anything at all for streaming private content from a private server to a private client though.
Thank god for jellyfin. I have a feeling plex would have gone a lot harder with this update if there was no competition.
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If the server you are streaming from has a pass you don't need to pay
You already needed the pass to share with your friends
No you don't. I've shared with people and I've never had a pass.
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Jellyfin has native apps for Android, Android TV and iOS.
Does Plex offer native apps (that aren't just stripped down browsers) for more platforms?
Atm Xbox is my most reliable media player. PlayStation isn't quite there, but would be a nice to have. My parents aren't very tech literate and they use their smart TV/cable box. I have a friend with an older Roku/smart stick that's incompatible. Have they added an app for Apple TV yet?
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How else would they continue developing their social features that no one fucking asked for?
Meanwhile they remove the social features that people DO like and use like watch together
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It reeks of "we're routing your traffic through our own servers to check your media for piracy" to me.
Why would they check for piracy when it's not them you're pirating from and stopping piracy would remove the most popular use case of their product?
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As long as you have PP, users streaming remotely from your server can do so without PP (or the mobile app unlock). The client user charge is only for accessing servers that don’t have PP. Still insane they’re charging anything at all for streaming private content from a private server to a private client though.
Thank god for jellyfin. I have a feeling plex would have gone a lot harder with this update if there was no competition.
I missed that part of the article and had a user point it out. Still really dumb of Plex to charge more for something that has little overhead for them, greedy assholes.
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Atm Xbox is my most reliable media player. PlayStation isn't quite there, but would be a nice to have. My parents aren't very tech literate and they use their smart TV/cable box. I have a friend with an older Roku/smart stick that's incompatible. Have they added an app for Apple TV yet?
There is an app, but it’s not receiving updates at the moment. They’re doing a complete re-write. The iOS app has been released, and it’s fantastic.
The Infuse app is a great band-aid for the time being.
