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Everything you say to your Echo will be sent to Amazon starting on March 28.

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    Me while cooking mac and cheese for the kids:
    "Echo, set timer for 8 minutes"

    Echo: "GOOD EVENING [me], SETTING TIMER FOR 8 MINUTES"

    No, shut the fuck up and just set the goddamn timer without the extra fluff. I've seen Ex Machina, I know you have no empathy, so knock off the "nice" shit and do what I fucking ask without anything else.

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    There are a few settings that make it better. Like enabling "brief mode" or something like that

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      Off-device processing has been the default from day one. The only thing changing is the removal for local processing on certain devices, likely because the new backing AI model will no longer be able to run on that hardware.

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      With on-device processing, they don’t need to send audio. They can just send the text, which is infinitely smaller and easier to encrypt as “telemetry”. They’ve probably got logs of conversations in every Alexa household.

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        Today: "...they will be deleted after Alexa processes your requests."

        Some point in the not-so-distant future: "We are reaching out to let you know that your voice recordings will no longer be deleted. As we continue to expand Alexa's capabilities, we have decided to no longer support this feature."

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        “We lied and paid a $3M fine.”

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          Easy fix: don't buy this garbage to begin with. It's terrible for the environment, terrible for your privacy, of dubious value to begin with.

          If every man is an onion, one of my deeper layers is crumudgeon. So take that into account when I say fuck all portable speakers. I'm so tired of hearing everyone's shitty noise. Just fucking everywhere. It takes one person feeling entitled to blast the shittiest music available to ruin everyone in a 500yd radius's day. If this is you, I hope you stub your toe on every coffee table, hit your head on every door jam, miss every bus.

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            Easy fix: don't buy this garbage to begin with. It's terrible for the environment, terrible for your privacy, of dubious value to begin with.

            If every man is an onion, one of my deeper layers is crumudgeon. So take that into account when I say fuck all portable speakers. I'm so tired of hearing everyone's shitty noise. Just fucking everywhere. It takes one person feeling entitled to blast the shittiest music available to ruin everyone in a 500yd radius's day. If this is you, I hope you stub your toe on every coffee table, hit your head on every door jam, miss every bus.

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            I have a Google home. The only reason I have it is because Spotify gave them away for free back in 2019. It sits unplugged somewhere.

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              With on-device processing, they don’t need to send audio. They can just send the text, which is infinitely smaller and easier to encrypt as “telemetry”. They’ve probably got logs of conversations in every Alexa household.

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              This has always blown my mind. Watching people willingly allow Big Brother-esque devices into their home for very, very minor conveniences like turning on some gimmicky multi-colored light bulbs. Now they're literally using home "security" cameras that store everything on some random cloud server. I'll truly never understand.

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                "Alexa, from now on, call me 'Big Dick Daddy from Cincinnati'."

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                Wait hold on

                I wonder if I can get the Google assistant British lady to call me that

                Edit: Lmfao it works

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                  People seem upset about this. I’m over here wondering wtf is an echo?

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                    This has always blown my mind. Watching people willingly allow Big Brother-esque devices into their home for very, very minor conveniences like turning on some gimmicky multi-colored light bulbs. Now they're literally using home "security" cameras that store everything on some random cloud server. I'll truly never understand.

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                    Why has no security researcher published evidence of these devices with microphones uploading random conversations? Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?

                    We know more about top secret NSA programs than we do about this proposed Alexa spy mechanism. None of the people working on this at Amazon have wanted to leak anything?

                    I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it seems extremely improbable to me that everyone’s microphones are listening to their conversations, they’re being uploaded somewhere to serve them better ads, and absolutely nobody has leaked anything or found any evidence.

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                      There are a few settings that make it better. Like enabling "brief mode" or something like that

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                      I have brief mode on, she doesn’t give a shit. I need “say the absolute minimum number of words” mode.

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                        People are saying don't get an echo but this is the tip of an iceberg. My coworkers' cell phones are eavesdropping. My neighbors doorbells record every time I leave the house. Almost every new vehicle mines us for data. We can avoid some of the problem but we cannot avoid it all. We need a bigger, more aggressive solution if we are going to have a solution at all.

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                          https://lemmy.world/c/homeassistant

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                            Why has no security researcher published evidence of these devices with microphones uploading random conversations? Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?

                            We know more about top secret NSA programs than we do about this proposed Alexa spy mechanism. None of the people working on this at Amazon have wanted to leak anything?

                            I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it seems extremely improbable to me that everyone’s microphones are listening to their conversations, they’re being uploaded somewhere to serve them better ads, and absolutely nobody has leaked anything or found any evidence.

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                            Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?

                            I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...

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                              Why has no security researcher published evidence of these devices with microphones uploading random conversations? Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?

                              We know more about top secret NSA programs than we do about this proposed Alexa spy mechanism. None of the people working on this at Amazon have wanted to leak anything?

                              I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it seems extremely improbable to me that everyone’s microphones are listening to their conversations, they’re being uploaded somewhere to serve them better ads, and absolutely nobody has leaked anything or found any evidence.

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                              Argument from ignorance

                              It's better to be safe than sorry is all I'm saying.

                              Edit: There's also this.

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                                This has always blown my mind. Watching people willingly allow Big Brother-esque devices into their home for very, very minor conveniences like turning on some gimmicky multi-colored light bulbs. Now they're literally using home "security" cameras that store everything on some random cloud server. I'll truly never understand.

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                                I mean... I 100% agree, and yet you and I and everyone reading this are carrying around a phone that can do the exact same shit

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                                  I mean... I 100% agree, and yet you and I and everyone reading this are carrying around a phone that can do the exact same shit

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                                  This is why jailbreaking/rooting your phone is so important.

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                                    Argument from ignorance

                                    It's better to be safe than sorry is all I'm saying.

                                    Edit: There's also this.

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                                    Do you own a smartphone?

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                                      Do you own a smartphone?

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                                      Yeah, but it's rooted and running a custom ROM 😉

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                                        Wow there are way fewer "so what it's the same as your smartphone" and "everyone does it, google, apple, it's no big deal" comments on Lemmy.

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                                          It’s not mine but I frequently tell the one in house our to “fuck off”?

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