Everything you say to your Echo will be sent to Amazon starting on March 28.
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I mean... I 100% agree, and yet you and I and everyone reading this are carrying around a phone that can do the exact same shit
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It's better to be safe than sorry is all I'm saying.
Edit: There's also this.
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Wow there are way fewer "so what it's the same as your smartphone" and "everyone does it, google, apple, it's no big deal" comments on Lemmy.
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Itâs not mine but I frequently tell the one in house our to âfuck offâ?
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Why has no security researcher published evidence of these devices with microphones uploading random conversations? Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?
We know more about top secret NSA programs than we do about this proposed Alexa spy mechanism. None of the people working on this at Amazon have wanted to leak anything?
Iâm not saying itâs not possible, but it seems extremely improbable to me that everyoneâs microphones are listening to their conversations, theyâre being uploaded somewhere to serve them better ads, and absolutely nobody has leaked anything or found any evidence.
Because if they would publish it, the other security experts would say "well, duh, that's how it works".
It is just the average people that are unaware of it, or don't seem to care.
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be aware, everything you say around amazon, apple, alphabet, meta, and any other corporate trash products are being sold, trained on, and sent to your local alphabet agency. it's been this way for a while, but this is a nice reminder to know when to speak and when to listen
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be aware, everything you say around amazon, apple, alphabet, meta, and any other corporate trash products are being sold, trained on, and sent to your local alphabet agency. it's been this way for a while, but this is a nice reminder to know when to speak and when to listen
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Nobody working on the inside has ever leaked anything regarding this potentially massive breach of privacy? A perfectly secret conspiracy by everyone involved?
Per that article, it only happens when it thinks it's been activated, and only when you opt in. Not much of a bombshell.
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So... if you own an inexpensive Alexa device, it just doesn't have the horsepower to process your requests on-device. Your basic $35 device is just a microphone and a wifi streamer (ok, it also handles buttons and fun LED light effects). The Alexa device SDK can run on a $5 ESP-32. That's how little it needs to work on-site.
Everything you say is getting sent to the cloud where it is NLP processed, parsed, then turned into command intents and matched against the devices and services you've installed. It does a match against the phrase 'slots' and returns results which are then turned into voice and played back on the speaker.
With the new LLM-based Alexa+ services, it's all on the cloud. Very little of the processing can happen on-device. If you want to use the service, don't be surprised the voice commands end up on the cloud. In most cases, it already was.
If you don't like it, look into Home Assistant. But last I checked, to keep everything local and not too laggy, you'll need a super beefy (expensive) local home server. Otherwise, it's shipping your audio bits out to the cloud as well. There's no free lunch.
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I have a Google home. The only reason I have it is because Spotify gave them away for free back in 2019. It sits unplugged somewhere.
::: spoiler spoiler
It still captures your voice:::
jk (I hope)
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Today: "...they will be deleted after Alexa processes your requests."
Some point in the not-so-distant future: "We are reaching out to let you know that your voice recordings will no longer be deleted. As we continue to expand Alexa's capabilities, we have decided to no longer support this feature."
Or simply "...they will be deleted after Alexa processes your request and generates a token for AI training".
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Only a fool would put an Amazon listening device in their home.
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::: spoiler spoiler
It still captures your voice:::
jk (I hope)
That's covered by my phone.
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Always listening AI. I always thought the future would be awesome but capitalism has figured out a way for it to not be that.
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What happens if I buy one and start playing porn on my computer ?
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I have always told people to avoid Amazon.
They have doorbells to watch who comes to your house and when.
Indoor and outdoor security cameras to monitor when you go outside, for how long, and why.
They acquired roomba, which not only maps out your house, but they have little cameras in them as well, another angle to monitor you through your house in more personal areas that indoor cameras might not see.
They have the Alexa products meant to record you at all times for their own use and intent.
Why do you think along with Amazon Prime subscriptions you get free cloud storage, free video streaming, free music? They are categorizing you in the most efficient and accurate way possible.
Boycott anything Amazon touches
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The part that really gets me is that you have to opt out to not have everything you say saved. Bonkers that that isn't the default! There's no good user-based reason for this. Alexa doesn't remember shit for users, like any AI there's no recall feature. You can't say remember what I told you last night - give the address for that place, I was drunk and don't remember the name.
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People are saying don't get an echo but this is the tip of an iceberg. My coworkers' cell phones are eavesdropping. My neighbors doorbells record every time I leave the house. Almost every new vehicle mines us for data. We can avoid some of the problem but we cannot avoid it all. We need a bigger, more aggressive solution if we are going to have a solution at all.
Jam the mic?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08Y5GGP4DWorks on my phone...
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What happens if I buy one and start playing porn on my computer ?
Why not fuck around and find out?