Google is tracking you even when you use DuckDuckGo
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Can someone convince me DuckDuckGo isn't the browser equivalent of controlled opposition? I struggle like I do with Firefox to see their behavior any other way.
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lol
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Can someone convince me DuckDuckGo isn't the browser equivalent of controlled opposition? I struggle like I do with Firefox to see their behavior any other way.
Why do you believe duckduckgo is a controlled opposition?
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I use duck duck go mainly, but more and more I'm using yandex. I heard about kagi, the privacy-focused but paid alternative, and what it really comes down to is how much do you want to trust others with your data?
This article made no mention of browser extensions like ublock or privacy badger, the latter being a track-blocker exclusively.
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Why do you believe duckduckgo is a controlled opposition?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because they sell themselves as a cute alternative to Google without offering a substantiative difference.
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Is Google Analytics and embedded tracking news? I have a whole list of untrusted domains in noscript that has to do with analytics from google, cloudflare and others.
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Because they sell themselves as a cute alternative to Google without offering a substantiative difference.
They allow you to search with js off, which means no tracking on their domain. Quite a big difference.
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I think this comment said it best:
This is an obvious, thinly-veiled advertisement for a company's services. It's widely known that ad companies track you everywhere by many mechanisms. This is why we use ad blockers of all sorts. This has nothing to do with DuckDuckGo, it's merely used as a vehicle to get clicks.
And a supplemental note from the DDG team themselves :
This title is highly misleading, implying that Google tracks DuckDuckGo searches directly, which isn’t true... please change it to be more accurate about Google analytics and other Google trackers on websites you may visit.
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Because they sell themselves as a cute alternative to Google without offering a substantiative difference.
So... controlled by whom?
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Can someone convince me DuckDuckGo isn't the browser equivalent of controlled opposition? I struggle like I do with Firefox to see their behavior any other way.
What would, according to you, be not "controlled opposition"? Using
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So... controlled by whom?
By the people who don't want an actually good alternative to Google that would actually threaten them?
Their job is to be mediocre and disappointing.
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What would, according to you, be not "controlled opposition"? Using
curlto fetch webpages?I am talking about the behavior of the company broadly? I don't understand.
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By the people who don't want an actually good alternative to Google that would actually threaten them?
Their job is to be mediocre and disappointing.
They're doing a terrible job then.
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So... controlled by whom?
By them *gestures broadly *
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By the people who don't want an actually good alternative to Google that would actually threaten them?
Their job is to be mediocre and disappointing.
What people are these? Are they real people? Do they have names or a money trail?
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What people are these? Are they real people? Do they have names or a money trail?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't care who the people are in this evaluation, I am not interested in attacking the motivations or character of people who are involved with DuckDuckGo or Firefox, what I am saying is both clearly act as systems in ways that are entirely in accordance with the behavior of controlled opposition.
I don't even blame most of the people involved, the amount of money and power Google has makes the idea of being the one smaller scrappy competitor and actually having even a remotely fair chance at a basic level patently absurd given how much power and money Google has.
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They allow you to search with js off, which means no tracking on their domain. Quite a big difference.
They can't stop tracking on other sites, quite obviously.They allow you to search with js off, which means no tracking on their domain
huh? plenty of tracking is still possible without javascript
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this is an advertorial with a dishonest/misleading clickbait headline.
of course google has trackers on lots of websites... that is not news, nor does it have anything to do with which non-gooogle search engine one might use to find a website.
this particular google analytics competitor may or may not be more privacy friendly than others but the fact that they are advertising their product with this kind of garbage does not inspire confidence.
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They allow you to search with js off, which means no tracking on their domain
huh? plenty of tracking is still possible without javascript
Yeah, for some reason I thought that html.duckduckgo.com was free from ads, but when I temporarily disabbled uBlock origin I see that isn't the case.
I didn't mean to insinuate that no js means no tracking, I meant that the only tracking on ddg (clicking ads) was gone. I was wrong on that count.
