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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that's going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I'm getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven't had to delve into the command line at all yet.

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    You can also install SteamOS which is literally what the Steam Deck runs.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

      I completely disagree. Debian is not beginner-friendly. Go with Bazzite if your focus is gaming.

      It is a gaming-focused distribution. It's also an "atomic" distribution, which basically means it's really hard to break it. It's more like Android or IOS where the OS and base system are managed by someone else. They're read-only so you can't accidentally break them.

      For example, instead of trying to manage your own video card drivers, they come packaged with the base system image, and they're tested to make sure they work with all the other base components.

      I've been using Linux since the 1990s, so I've run my share of distributions: Slackware, RedHat, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. Even for someone experienced, atomic distributions are great. But, for a newcomer they're so much better.

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      In what world is a Debian base not beginner friendly my fiancé that could barely use windows is using it just fine

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        IIRC W11 share is barely near W10 and they are already forcing it out and crapton of perfectly usable hardware, if it is not planned obsolescence i don't know what it is? Fuck microsoft!

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          The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.

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          +1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you're off to the races.
          just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.

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            Security wise 11 is better

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            Depends on how you define security.

            Is win11 more cryptographically secure, absolutely.

            Does that matter if you don't trust the holder of the keys (the Microsoft keys stored in the tpm) not really.

            implementing a more secure platform doesn't mean much if the only way you are doing it is by handing over control to a third party.

            Would you trust a better lock on your front door if it meant a proven bad actor was the one who could unlock it?

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            • celeste@kbin.earthC [email protected]

              I'm somewhat open to the idea, but the thought of messing up and not having any computer other than my phone until i figure it out is tough to get over.

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              If you can install another driver onto the computer, you can put Linux on that and kept the windows OS still, in case you need it. This is dual booting. You chose which OS you want when booting up.

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                Depends on how you define security.

                Is win11 more cryptographically secure, absolutely.

                Does that matter if you don't trust the holder of the keys (the Microsoft keys stored in the tpm) not really.

                implementing a more secure platform doesn't mean much if the only way you are doing it is by handing over control to a third party.

                Would you trust a better lock on your front door if it meant a proven bad actor was the one who could unlock it?

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                For the avg person why not trust them I’m not too worried about what they can collect on an average person I use Linux personally so I’m not shilling for Ms but 11 will keep out more hackers then 10 cause I wouldn’t be worried about them stealing my card info but a hacker yes i would be

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                  I went with Mint but I'm thinking about KDE (or maybe KDE flavored Arch? Idk I'm new) on my second computer. Pretty painless?

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                  Eh Arch can be quite stable if you're careful, but it could also be a frustrating experience, there's lots of manual configuration

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                    Bought a new PC and switched from dual boot Win10/Linux to Linux only. All of the games I'm playing work well, so no need for Windows 11

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                      +1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you're off to the races.
                      just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.

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                      Yeah I can't say I've used it myself but it seems pretty straightforward and very in line with SteamOS philosophies.

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                        The more people hop onto Linux the faster and better funded support for Linux development becomes. If you're a single player gamer or play Valve multiplayer games primarily, make the jump to Linux. Get on Mint, get on Fedora, Ubuntu, etc and get off Microsoft's shitboat. You already took off from Reddit. Wean off all these other money/data leeches

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                        Can Linux run Valorant?

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                          Just moved my Win10 machine to Pop OS. No issues at all. Haven’t tried Steam VR on it yet.

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                          As long as your not streaming to a quest vr is great cause at least last time I tried it didn’t work that was a year or 2 back now though

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                            I use Opensuse MicroOS on half a dozen PCs but I keep one on Windows until I can run Fortnite on Linux.

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                              Upgrade? How is 11 an upgrade?

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                                As long as you go with a mainstream distro you can’t really mess it up if you play games try bazzite it’s a atomic distro so it’s hard to break since the system files are read only and if an update breaks it has a duplicate file system to fall back on from before the update and is just as easy if not easier then windows to install

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                                • valaramech@fedia.ioV [email protected]

                                  You can also install SteamOS which is literally what the Steam Deck runs.

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                                  That is the old Debian-based operating system that ran on Steam Machines and is no longer supported. Valve really needs to remove it from their website. The version of SteamOS running on the Steam Deck is Arch-based.

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                                  • mooncake@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                                    I upgraded to Windows 11.

                                    I tried Linux but but so much stuff isn't supported so I got rid of it.

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                                    What other then adobe and rootkit anti cheat’s don’t work

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                                      Yep, I feel like people overestimate how much anyone cares about official support or security patches or whatever. People will assume it's fine until they're either forced out or something goes horribly wrong.

                                      Regular folks will most likely let it be if possible, until it's time for a new PC anyway.

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                                      My brother in law was still using windows 7 and it had never occurred to him that this might be a security risk. Normal people don't care.

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                                        Can Linux run Valorant?

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                                        No Kernel level anti cheat will ever work on linux. But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

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                                        • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                          Running an EoL operating system is surely what you want to do with your personal dat-

                                          Aaaaaaand it's been compromised

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                                          I'm pretty sure all personal data leaks to me and my friends and family have nothing to do with personal EOL OS on personal PCs/laptops.

                                          My Dad, ran Windows 7 (yes, 7) until he passed last year, almost 80. We had his credit locked down, we had antivirus running, we kept the browsers up to date, and he was very good about not clicking weird links or calling fake support numbers.

                                          His biggest data breach (and ours too)? Was from myChart a couple years ago, he got a letter that his data was part of the big hack, yada yada yada free credit reporting - so sorry. If you don't know, myChart is like The Main medical everything portal in the US at least for most doctors and hospital systems. So all your test results, making appointments, sending messages, requesting Rx refills, all through myChart's website. The hospitals and doctors using MyChart can see pretty much everything in your myChart health record (some exceptions)

                                          So using super secure OS on your personal computer means nothing when you are part of a hundreds of millions data dump from someone hacking into that. Not having an account just means you don't have access to your own records, they are still part of the system.

                                          But Yes, I was in the process of getting Dad an upgrade to a flavor of Linux that would be the closest to what he was used to. And the only reason was because browser support was coming to EOL for Windows 7. He really didn't want to change or lose his solitaire games and he deserved a stress-free life to play his damn games like he wanted.

                                          THAT SAID - if businesses are using EOL OS and getting hacked - they definitely need to do whatever they need to do and protect their customer data. But EOL OS for an average person checking email, making doctor's appointments, checking headlines, and playing solitaire while streaming music certainly doesn't call for a need to panic.

                                          IF you are a power user doing sometimes sketch things (according to Apple/MS anyway) probably switch to Linux sooner than later.

                                          We have computers running Linux, Windows 10 (one of which was on 8.1 until a year ago), and Windows 11 in our house. The one on 11 is being tested basically, and will probably be reinstalled with Linux. But we are trying to give it a shot.

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