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Universal Coronavirus Vaccine Breakthrough: A Single Shot That Could Protect You From COVID, MERS, and the Common Cold

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    doubt we’ll “ever” have that policy.

    They likely won't do it just to do it; driving forces would be required.

    If we reach a point where there are serious side effects of lacking engineers, doctors, and nurses due to expatriation, they'll stop allowing travel. It'll come as part of a martial law crackdown.

    In the long run, people won't put up with it; in the short run.... would you REALLY put it past them?

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    You assume that the republicans and oligarchs actually care about the US being a thriving economy or even country. They don't. They are ripping the copper out of the wall (and the gold out of fort knox...).

    Which will basically get it to the same state as Russia and China. The vast majority of the population will be in a really bad way. But those who benefit will likely stick around as they can feel good about being so much better off than everyone around them. And, more importantly the people who CAN consider international travel (temporary or permanent) won't be incentivized to.

    Like I said. I can definitely see a path to a North Korea level of lockdown. But we have the template for what "works" and it is Russia and China.

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      Coronaviruses are not the only cause for what is considered the "common cold". I remember that some Rhinoviruses, Adenoviruses and I think a forth family of viruses also cause symptoms that are counted as a cold. It's kind of a catch all term.

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      Okay, sure. Then a third of all colds, which feels like a good start.

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        It includes the latest release, but it's the same one included on last year's flu vaccine.

        I think the devs may be quietly winding down support over the next few years.

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        Abolishes higher education, public libraries, and free time

        We've done it. We've cured autism.

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          Herd immunity and whatnot

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          Necessary to protect people with weak immune systems, certainly. But we rarely get better than 60% of the population flu vaxed. It is still vital to deter higher instances of hospitalization and to blunt the rate of spread.

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          • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

            Okay, sure. Then a third of all colds, which feels like a good start.

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            Sure, I'm not opposed either! Just want to make sure people here have the information needed to not be disappointed later.

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            • anyoldname3@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              There are people who have genuine medical reasons to not take vaccines (e.g. an allergy to a common ingredient) or who are so immunocompromised that a vaccine won't keep them alive, and they rely on other people getting vaccinated to avoid dying. It's not just antivaxers who antivaxers kill.

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              it’s not just antivaxers who antivaxers kill.

              Reminded of the family whose kid died of measles saying "Our other kids survived, so it was fine".

              That young child wasn't the one who had been deluded with misinformation.

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                You realize if the morons die out everyone else remaining still has heerd immunity, right?

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                Selection bias. All the survivors will say "See! We didn't need the Fauchi Ouchie!" while all the dead won't say anything.

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                  Sometimes I like to pretend that it's still 2020, and the past 5 years or so have just been a COVID-induced fever dream

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                  Me in 2020: Man, this year fucking sucks!

                  2025: Hold my beer.

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                  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                    Abolishes higher education, public libraries, and free time

                    We've done it. We've cured autism.

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                    Abolishes higher education, public libraries, and free time

                    Almost like the rise in people identifying as autistic and diagnoses could be connected the fact that we created a non functioning society that only values extraverted people who are willing to lie and hurt others…. That neurodivergence is pathologized primarily because it runs counter to functioning in a capitalist society, and that many autistic people struggling to survive today might thrive and not be seen as even ‘disabled’ in a world where struggling to make eye contact doesn’t get you disqualified in job interviews…

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                      Also, fuck cancer. (Cancer vaccines may be next, the end of the article.)

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                      • whoisearth@lemmy.caW [email protected]

                        Who gives a shit? I will take it as will my entire family.

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                        In the '80s, Reagan thought that AIDS was killing the right people.

                        Now it's the other way around.

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                          CSIS go take this research and get it developed for the world

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                            Abolishes higher education, public libraries, and free time

                            Almost like the rise in people identifying as autistic and diagnoses could be connected the fact that we created a non functioning society that only values extraverted people who are willing to lie and hurt others…. That neurodivergence is pathologized primarily because it runs counter to functioning in a capitalist society, and that many autistic people struggling to survive today might thrive and not be seen as even ‘disabled’ in a world where struggling to make eye contact doesn’t get you disqualified in job interviews…

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                            the rise in people identifying as autistic and diagnoses could be connected the fact that we created a non functioning society that only values extraverted people who are willing to lie and hurt others

                            Or it could be the strict formalization of psychiatric studies, combined with the more broad based diagnosis and categorization of the school aged working class. We've invested more labor and professional expertise in analyzing public education and its consequences, so we're picking up on a wider variety of psychological variants and aptitudes.

                            That neurodivergence is pathologized primarily because it runs counter to functioning in a capitalist society

                            Capitalists are more than happy to profiteer off of neurodivergence both coming - via commodification of prodigy and other unusual pools of talent - and going - via medical marketing and "normalization" therapies. I wouldn't say it runs counter to capitalist social agendas, because nothing runs strictly against an agenda that is fixated exclusively on maximizing future profit. We're continuing to invent exciting new ways to exploit people's psychological differences, always with an eye towards alienation, segregation, and surplus extraction. Identifying and capturing neurodivegent individuals and squeezing them for their productive value has been a big part of the modern Finance Sector and Silicon Valley projects.

                            in a world where struggling to make eye contact doesn’t get you disqualified in job interviews…

                            We're creating a world in which everyone interfaces through computers, where individuals are encouraged to self-segregate and alienate one another, and where information is constantly mediated through attention-grabbing infographic spectacles that reward the users for engagement.

                            This is not a system designed to exclude individuals with autism. This is a system designed to feed on them.

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                              Selection bias. All the survivors will say "See! We didn't need the Fauchi Ouchie!" while all the dead won't say anything.

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                              Yes, but we're slowly evolving away the dumbest and most dangerous of the population.

                              In the past we sent them running eagerly into the meat grinder of war.

                              Now they're building up like cord wood, and starting to smolder.

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                                True, that could also happen, but I wonder how transferable this type of research project is. Does the research lead actually own it and can take it with him or her to a new place, or does Scripps own it? I don't know the answer.

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                                Flash drive or cloud transfer when you flee the country, the modern replacement for briefcases full of blueprints.

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                                  *seconds

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                                  You've never seen a drowning, have you?

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                                    You've never seen a drowning, have you?

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                                    Guilty as charged, enlighten me.

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                                      the rise in people identifying as autistic and diagnoses could be connected the fact that we created a non functioning society that only values extraverted people who are willing to lie and hurt others

                                      Or it could be the strict formalization of psychiatric studies, combined with the more broad based diagnosis and categorization of the school aged working class. We've invested more labor and professional expertise in analyzing public education and its consequences, so we're picking up on a wider variety of psychological variants and aptitudes.

                                      That neurodivergence is pathologized primarily because it runs counter to functioning in a capitalist society

                                      Capitalists are more than happy to profiteer off of neurodivergence both coming - via commodification of prodigy and other unusual pools of talent - and going - via medical marketing and "normalization" therapies. I wouldn't say it runs counter to capitalist social agendas, because nothing runs strictly against an agenda that is fixated exclusively on maximizing future profit. We're continuing to invent exciting new ways to exploit people's psychological differences, always with an eye towards alienation, segregation, and surplus extraction. Identifying and capturing neurodivegent individuals and squeezing them for their productive value has been a big part of the modern Finance Sector and Silicon Valley projects.

                                      in a world where struggling to make eye contact doesn’t get you disqualified in job interviews…

                                      We're creating a world in which everyone interfaces through computers, where individuals are encouraged to self-segregate and alienate one another, and where information is constantly mediated through attention-grabbing infographic spectacles that reward the users for engagement.

                                      This is not a system designed to exclude individuals with autism. This is a system designed to feed on them.

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                                      Or it could be the strict formalization of psychiatric studies, combined with the more broad based diagnosis and categorization of the school aged working class.

                                      Is autism diagnosis really that formalized?

                                      I was tutoring psych the other day, and the book the student had still claimed that women were much less likely to be autistic. It’s fascinating how many women don’t get diagnosed well into their thirties. It makes me really wonder what is being used to diagnosis autism, and how much of it might be affected by the tester’s bias and beliefs.

                                      (Personally, I’ve always wanted to be tested but the 12 month plus waiting list and the $5k not covered by insurance means that I’ll probably continue going through the rest of my life without any form of work accommodation…)

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                                        I know my state would find a way to ban this shit. They hate anything that prevents needless suffering.

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                                          This didn't answer the question for me.

                                          I get the 1st part: They've unhidden a stable spike protein hidden by sugars and used it to create an immune response.

                                          The long-term effectiveness is where I'm getting lost. How will the immune system know when to use these particular anti-bodies in the future? If, say, 5 years after being vaccinated I'm infected, surely the relevant spike proteins are hidden by sugars. So how can my body recognise them as the same protein and make more of the correct anti-bodies?

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