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Universal Coronavirus Vaccine Breakthrough: A Single Shot That Could Protect You From COVID, MERS, and the Common Cold

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    I wonder how this could help those with long COVID.

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    long covid, aka sequelae (medical term) means you had a long last complication that seperate from the virus. the inflammation couldve damaged parts of your body you are chronically suffering from. it might not help, since its not caused by the virus anymore.

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      Doesn't chickenpox turn into shingles by infecting the nervous system?

      Could long covid be related to that?

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      different issues. varicella can cause shingles, when it travels to your dorsal root ganglia near your spine or the ganglia in your head,or rarely it can become dormant in your autonomic nervous system.

      varicella, a herpes isnt the same thing as coronavirus. long covid is just laymen terms for complications or sequalae. Covid can trigger shingles, because your immune system is fighting the covid virus instead of shingles.

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        The virus that causes chicken pox, lies dormant in your nervous system, where your immune system can’t get it, for decades. Then much later in life the virus can reactivate, infect along those nerves, causing shingles.

        This is the important part of the chicken pox vaccination the we don’t talk about nearly enough.

        • If you get chicken pox, you’ll probably be ok (although not everyone is) and get over it, becoming immune. But the virus will still lurk, opening you to shingles attacks when you’re much older
        • if you get the vaccination, you’ll probably not only not get chicken pox, but will also not get shingles
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        the varicella vaccine prevents severe infections, but its not entirely protective against it, it just makes you asymptomatic, and once you get reinfected it can still become dormant, and get hsingles, just less chances of getting it.

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        • L [email protected]

          long covid, aka sequelae (medical term) means you had a long last complication that seperate from the virus. the inflammation couldve damaged parts of your body you are chronically suffering from. it might not help, since its not caused by the virus anymore.

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          Well, I'm fucked.

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            I had the cold and COVID back-to-back. I felt much worse with the cold. It turned into a chest infection that took about three weeks to get over. And then right as I got over that, I caught COVID. I was just tired with COVID. Like I had a fever and some coughing, but aside from that I was just sleepy.

            Joke’s on me though; That was over a year ago, and I still have long COVID.

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            I think "long covid" is something that has existed for a long time, well not long covid specifically but long term side effects of colds and flu.

            A few years before covid I got a terrible cold or flu. Name a symptom of the flu and I probably had it, it was hard to even get myself to the toilet.

            But what was so unique is even after the aches, the cough, and sore throat etc symptoms disappeared I didn't recover. I was exhausted. Even weeks later I'd fluctuate between days of being fine to the next barely able to get out of bed.

            It took at least 3 months after traditional flu symptoms had finished till that started to taper off. And at least another 3 before I started feeling truly myself again.

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            • lazynooblet@lazysoci.alL [email protected]

              I had a similar experience, also a month ago. Lots of people I know had it similar the last few months. Is there another wave of this going around and this time I'm noticing?

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              From my knowledge, here in Germany, there was a strong flu wave this winter. Basically everyone I know got a severe and long RTI, but I mostly know other parents of kindergarteners, so there is a big bias. However, it wasn't even localized to my area, my family is in another part of the country and similar story there.

              I am subscribed to a kind of weekly questionnaire about RTI by Robert Koch Institute, there is also a report attached to it. I remember reading that there was, indeed, a stronger RTI and flu wave this year.

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              • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                Drowning is probably the best way to go excluding the obvious opiate overdose forever sleepy time. It's not drawn out like freezing to death.

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                Jesus Christ no no no, I take it back, I take dying from a cold please

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                  its pretty hard to vaccinate against the common cold, since coronavirus only represents like 15ish percent, the majority are all rhinoviruses there arnt any vaccines for those because theres too many strains(like 200+) to deal with, and also its so self-limiting its not worht it to produce anyway, in addition to trying to figure out which virus is causing the cold and which strain. also there a bunch of other viruses that causes colds, like entero,adeno, parainfluenza, RSV,,,etc.

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                  I'm well aware of that, but taking only 15% out of a multi-billion-a-year market is still money. And there has been research into dealing with rhinoviruses in general, too, so that would take an even larger chunk.

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                    It is not really.
                    But I guess that everything compares as wonderful compared to Palestine, Iran, Ukraine and the US, right now.

                    • source: live here
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                      They still won't take it.

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                        Except you supercharge the mutation of the disease as well, so its a rinse and repeat cycle.

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                        • arun@ani.socialA [email protected]

                          Well, I'm fucked.

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                          Sometimes the nody heals though slowly, for me it took a first 6-9 months to get over the worst, and I'm way better today.

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                            Finally, someone speaking actual biology instead of paranoid rants. Impressive grasp of glycosylation and conserved epitope exposure - you've clearly done your reading beyond headlines. The sugar-stripping approach is ingenious precisely because it targets what viruses try to hide. Current research trajectory looks promising but I'll wait for peer-reviewed publications after that ACS meeting before joining the hype train.

                            🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

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                            Does the sugar stripping affect any other bodily functions? Stripping is temporary but it still may have permanent effects for some existing conditions.

                            Does a coronavirus need to be introduced at the same time sugars are stripped or is it assumed that there are already many in the body?

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                              I'm not a biologist, so forgive me for being a complete layperson about this - but to check my understanding, this means that the material in the vaccine itself ('immunogen') has had the sugar stripped, correct? In other words, if we think of the sugar as "armour" on the virus, the vaccine isn't injecting some sort of armor removing enzyme, it's sending "armourless training dummies" into your body that THEY used an enzyme on, so your immune cells can prepare to hit their "vital organs"?

                              Reading the abstract itself it was a bit hard to parse, but we do try!

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                                Does it also contain the latest patches for my Autism?

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                                • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                                  Took me over half a year to get over covid.last time. I coughed so.much and so hard for so long I got a hernia.

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                                  Sometimes I like to pretend that it's still 2020, and the past 5 years or so have just been a COVID-induced fever dream

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                                    They still won't take it.

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                                    Who gives a shit? I will take it as will my entire family.

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                                      The virus that causes chicken pox, lies dormant in your nervous system, where your immune system can’t get it, for decades. Then much later in life the virus can reactivate, infect along those nerves, causing shingles.

                                      This is the important part of the chicken pox vaccination the we don’t talk about nearly enough.

                                      • If you get chicken pox, you’ll probably be ok (although not everyone is) and get over it, becoming immune. But the virus will still lurk, opening you to shingles attacks when you’re much older
                                      • if you get the vaccination, you’ll probably not only not get chicken pox, but will also not get shingles
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                                      If you have older relatives and friends (50+), do remind them that we have shingles vaccine: Shingrix.

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                                        Where can I get one?

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                                          Does the sugar stripping affect any other bodily functions? Stripping is temporary but it still may have permanent effects for some existing conditions.

                                          Does a coronavirus need to be introduced at the same time sugars are stripped or is it assumed that there are already many in the body?

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                                          Ok, you're missing a bit here. The "sugar stripping" happens in the lab, during the production of the immunogen, which would then later applied as a vaccine. From there the vaccine induces a response from the immune system, creating antibodies which are specific to the highly conserved part of the stalk structures on corona viruses. As a result one's immune system is prepared for when a corona virus shows up at some point after the vaccination.

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