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Microsoft's many Outlooks are confusing users and employees

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  • dan1101@lemm.eeD [email protected]

    OUTLOOK NOT SO GOOD

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    Ask again later?

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      It uses a fucking inordinate amount of resources to accomplish its task, mostly.

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      Comparing the amount of noise my laptop's CPU fans make between the two of them when doing moderately intensive tasks like screen sharing a 4K display, Zoom is measurably worse.

      Possibly the one time that Microsoft's inexplicable inability to make their own software run well on their own OS has somehow not manifested.

      Don't get me wrong, it is still death-by-a-thousand-cuts terrible, but the most current iteration of Teams is not the worst in its field... at this one specific thing.

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        Yeah I feel this. Outlook pisses me off. So does Microsoft in general.

        What pisses me off more is HP.

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          Several years ago I inadvertently (because I didn’t realize who they were) got in a twitter argument with someone who I seem to recall as the creator of electron about how it was fucking embarrassing how bad electron apps are. At the time I kinda felt bad because he seemed like a decent guy and I let loose but I wonder what the carbon footprint of his little side project is…

          I don’t know who at Microsoft had such a hard-on for electron back then, but it seems to have spread and it’s still nowhere close to the good old windows GUI for resource usage.

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          I could see the benefit if they wanted it to work on other systems, but I doubt that's why they chose it. Someone up high just saw it as the cool new thing and forced it onto projects, even when it didn't make sense.

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            I cant stand anything microsoft anymore. Teams, outlook, word, every iteration just makes me more angry.

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            the only thing i haven't found a viable replacement for is onenote.

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              Welcome to journalism in 202x

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              "one reddit user said..."

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                Why are Microsoft employees so fucking stupid?

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                8 thousand executives making product decisions from the top down and trying to cram every facet of the business into every other product.

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                • ripcord@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  Ask again later?

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                  All signs point to yes

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                    whatever about code security, when user security goes out of the window in its entirety

                    https://www.ghacks.net/2024/01/12/proton-mail-says-that-the-new-outlook-app-for-windows-is-microsofts-new-data-collection-service/

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                    It’s webmail with an offline mode, of course it’s collecting data.

                    This was already happening for most of their paying customers, and the data they connect is retained on a per-tenant basis.

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                      Ugh, I used the "Mail" app exactly once, in 2017. That should tell you all you need to know 😂

                      They could just not release the "new" Outlook until it's more feature complete...

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                      Why? Dumping that shitty code as fast as possible is a win for everyone. It’s been completely capable as a mail app for over a year. It’s barely-used functions that are missing.

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                        the only thing i haven't found a viable replacement for is onenote.

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                        Obsidian is my amswer to it.

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                          Microsoft sucks and so does Outlook. My dad uses Outlook personally and I just can't imagine that. It's like taking your torture rack home with you for personal usage.

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                            the only thing i haven't found a viable replacement for is onenote.

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                            I went from a small business that was entirely G Suite to a mega corp that was entirely Microsoft. Company culture wise the mega corp is soooo much better, technology wise....I felt totally limited and like I had gone back in time.

                            I went from being able to pull up a Google sheet on my phone to live update decision makers both back in the office and people who were remote, to having to jump through hoops to open an Excel sheet, then request editing rights, then having to submit the edited sheet to my supervisor only for her to have a manager review and approve the edit, and then he'd have to attach the edited version to an all hands email and tell everyone to download and use the new one.

                            It's gotten better since I started, we now upload everything to OneDrive, but they can't seem to get the permissions right and every once in a while someone edits a file and someone has to comb though the edit history to restore it.

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                              I could see the benefit if they wanted it to work on other systems, but I doubt that's why they chose it. Someone up high just saw it as the cool new thing and forced it onto projects, even when it didn't make sense.

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                              Microsoft can’t render text properly. Which is embarrassing for the company that makes the most popular document tools. Every app Microsoft makes that renders text well is running chromium at some level.

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                                So when my old job had it, about 5 (out of 30) people in my area just couldn't open it.

                                Not the same five, IT would frequently reinstall it to fix it, but it would just break constantly.

                                Work computers, very locked down, couldn't do any alternative to it at the time, and we worked remote, so while everyone else had chat, some unfortunate people needed constant updates via email.

                                The question was who would be SOL, not if someone would be, that day.

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                                I can almost feel my shoulders cramping up gaaaaaaaaahhhh

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                                  Weird, I always cum while using Teams

                                  (Dear employer - this was a joke)

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                                  YOUR FIYA'D! YA HEAR ME? FIYA'D! GET OUTTA HE'E.

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                                    I cant stand anything microsoft anymore. Teams, outlook, word, every iteration just makes me more angry.

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                                    This whole comment chain makes me feel abject despair at the prospect of getting a job outside the service industry.

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                                      Dude they fucked up Ctrl+S and Alt+F in paintbrush and it still fucks with my workflows.

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                                      You know you're an old time user when you call it paintbrush 🙂

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                                        "new" outlooks has less features than the old one. And its even harder to find things in settings (they removed a bunch of stuff). I dont look forward to this being on work devices...

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                                        The fun part is that the new Outlook for Mac is actually better than the new one for Windows (being a nativa app instead of the Electron app for Windows).

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                                          how shielded are enterprise accounts from the data harvest?

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