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What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?

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  • comfy@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

    They are un-desired…ala undesirable.

    No, their politics are unwanted. That's a huge difference, it's absurd to treat them as equal.

    When I used the term 'undesirables', I didn't mean literally 'not desired'. I meant it in the context that reactionaries like NSDAP (Nazi Germany) and their modern fans use it - it referred to peoples like Slavs, Romani, Jews, black peoples, people with disabilities, homosexuals and ideological opponents, and more^[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany, introduction, paragraph 3 and more]. People, just because of their lineage, were considered subhuman (Untermensch) and sent to be deported or exterminated. And it's absolutely applicable to the section of modern US conservatives (including their national leaders) who are currently embracing similar oppression of selected races and conditions. That's the allusion I was making with the borrowed term 'undersirables', not just a person who is being offensive, starting fights and told to leave.

    Identifying politically is a choice. One can refine their political positions, or even just be diplomatic and respectful, at any time, by choice. It's very easy.

    Being identified as a race, sex, or other similar category, is not a choice. So if you feel excluded because you named your account after two racist cunts and openly identify as 'conservative' in an anti-racist space, that's something you can easily choose not to do if you actually want to be included. Don't expect us to take you seriously when you compare that to the Republic party's form of exclusion, oppressing people for how they were born, not how they choose to act in a society.

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    No, their politics are unwanted. That’s a huge difference, it’s absurd to treat them as equal.

    So because someones politics are different than yours, they shouldn't be treated as equal. Hmmmm..

    Now image a republican saying that about democrats. Imagine your outrage. LMAO

    See, regardless of what Lemmy says, not every republican is a Nazi. This is why you all lost the election. Because you don't account for how many different kinds of republicans there are.

    And you'll lose the next one if ya don't wake up.

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    • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

      I doubt you would see that unless you were opposing Democratic values.

      Like what? Because friend, basically I would post an AP News article, and then get called a Nazi and told that I should be banned from the fediverse. My post history is public, see for yourself. lol

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      My post history is public, see for yourself. lol

      Whole lotta brietbart, americanthinker, pjmedia, dailymail.

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        My post history is public, see for yourself. lol

        Whole lotta brietbart, americanthinker, pjmedia, dailymail.

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        Yep and AP News and Newsweek.

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        • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

          Yep and AP News and Newsweek.

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          I figure if they are gonna hate no matter what I post, then I can post from wherever I want.

          And the sources you want indicate who you always were.

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            I figure if they are gonna hate no matter what I post, then I can post from wherever I want.

            And the sources you want indicate who you always were.

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            Nope. I was fine with sticking with AP News and Newsweek. But you all called me a Nazi. For posting AP News articles. LMAO

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            • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

              Nope. I was fine with sticking with AP News and Newsweek. But you all called me a Nazi. For posting AP News articles. LMAO

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              HA HA HA ha ha, you think your own race has anything to do with your nazi status? Nobody called you a nazi for posting AP News. Just look at your conservative posts, you barely post them anyway Dr BreitBart. This is DARVO right out the ass

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              • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                Yep and AP News and Newsweek.

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                You post bottom-barrel news sources because your high integrity news sources get downvoted? Brother I don't know how to tell you this... It's not who you post, it's what you celebrate.

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                  HA HA HA ha ha, you think your own race has anything to do with your nazi status? Nobody called you a nazi for posting AP News. Just look at your conservative posts, you barely post them anyway Dr BreitBart. This is DARVO right out the ass

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                  HA HA HA ha ha, you think your own race has anything to do with your nazi status?

                  Nope. But it's doubly offense when someone calls me a Nazi, when Nazis would actively seek me out and destroy me if they were around. lol

                  Nobody called you a nazi for posting AP News.

                  I was accused of being a Nazi lots when I was only posting AP News. I was banned from Lemmyworld c/politics because of posting news articles from legit orgs.

                  Now, to post in c/politics there, you can only use approved and verified news sources.

                  So in order for me to post there, all sources had to be approved. And they were. They don't allow conservative-biased sources. Which is fine, cuz their community so their rules. So I followed their rules.

                  But in the end, I ended up being banned. Wanna know why? Because they accused me of being a user called Universal Monk. Who I'd never even heard of before the ban.

                  So they legit didn't like the articles I was sending, accused me of being a nazi using AP News "propaganda," but couldn't really ban me for posting news articles from their own list, so they then decided I was someone else and banned me. For being someone I never even heard of.

                  Feel free to look up the modlog. It's public. You can see my posts there.

                  So yeah, fuck all that noise. Now I'll just post whatever I want. People can choose to read or not, I don't care. 🙂

                  DISCLAIMER: Yeah, I know the .world instance is toxic and sucks, but it is the biggest Lemmy instance, so it has a lot of pull.

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                    You post bottom-barrel news sources because your high integrity news sources get downvoted? Brother I don't know how to tell you this... It's not who you post, it's what you celebrate.

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                    You post bottom-barrel news sources because your high integrity news sources get downvoted?

                    Yep! The reality is I get downvoted no matter what. Even non-political science articles.

                    Which is fine because I don't take Lemmy seriously. But it does show that Lemmy doesn't are about fact, they care about the emotional hit of downvoting someone they don't personally like.

                    I think it's hilarious that they take it so seriously though.

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                    • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                      HA HA HA ha ha, you think your own race has anything to do with your nazi status?

                      Nope. But it's doubly offense when someone calls me a Nazi, when Nazis would actively seek me out and destroy me if they were around. lol

                      Nobody called you a nazi for posting AP News.

                      I was accused of being a Nazi lots when I was only posting AP News. I was banned from Lemmyworld c/politics because of posting news articles from legit orgs.

                      Now, to post in c/politics there, you can only use approved and verified news sources.

                      So in order for me to post there, all sources had to be approved. And they were. They don't allow conservative-biased sources. Which is fine, cuz their community so their rules. So I followed their rules.

                      But in the end, I ended up being banned. Wanna know why? Because they accused me of being a user called Universal Monk. Who I'd never even heard of before the ban.

                      So they legit didn't like the articles I was sending, accused me of being a nazi using AP News "propaganda," but couldn't really ban me for posting news articles from their own list, so they then decided I was someone else and banned me. For being someone I never even heard of.

                      Feel free to look up the modlog. It's public. You can see my posts there.

                      So yeah, fuck all that noise. Now I'll just post whatever I want. People can choose to read or not, I don't care. 🙂

                      DISCLAIMER: Yeah, I know the .world instance is toxic and sucks, but it is the biggest Lemmy instance, so it has a lot of pull.

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                      You were confused with the fediverse's biggest asshole by accident? LOL, you went from "it's their community" to "they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me." You are a side show and a half.

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                      • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                        You post bottom-barrel news sources because your high integrity news sources get downvoted?

                        Yep! The reality is I get downvoted no matter what. Even non-political science articles.

                        Which is fine because I don't take Lemmy seriously. But it does show that Lemmy doesn't are about fact, they care about the emotional hit of downvoting someone they don't personally like.

                        I think it's hilarious that they take it so seriously though.

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                        That definitely is a reality, but I don't think you've wrapped yourself around the "why" yet.

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                          You were confused with the fediverse's biggest asshole by accident? LOL, you went from "it's their community" to "they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me." You are a side show and a half.

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                          you went from “it’s their community” to “they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me."

                          Yes, both are true. It is their community. But they decided to get creative to get rid of me. And all I did was post AP News and Reuters articles. They are allowed to do that, but my point stands that I think the real reason I was banned was because they don't like conservative points of view--regardless of the legitimacy of the source. Which is a form of censorship.

                          I'm not banned from everywhere, so no biggie. I still post, so no biggie. But let's not pretend that people don't like me because I post fox news articles. Dude, come on now... You know Lemmy doesn't like conservatives. It's that simple.

                          And you also know that Lemmy throws around words like "Nazi" and "fascist" way too much and in fact has started to dilute the power of those words. Which is too bad. Because Lemmy is becoming as hateful as the people they say they fight against.

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                            That definitely is a reality, but I don't think you've wrapped yourself around the "why" yet.

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                            Oh I know the "why." Because they don't like conservative points of view. But I'm not changing.

                            Lemmy is open to everyone, just not necessarily "welcome" to everyone.

                            But I plan to stay in spite of the drama. So all good.

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                            • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                              you went from “it’s their community” to “they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me."

                              Yes, both are true. It is their community. But they decided to get creative to get rid of me. And all I did was post AP News and Reuters articles. They are allowed to do that, but my point stands that I think the real reason I was banned was because they don't like conservative points of view--regardless of the legitimacy of the source. Which is a form of censorship.

                              I'm not banned from everywhere, so no biggie. I still post, so no biggie. But let's not pretend that people don't like me because I post fox news articles. Dude, come on now... You know Lemmy doesn't like conservatives. It's that simple.

                              And you also know that Lemmy throws around words like "Nazi" and "fascist" way too much and in fact has started to dilute the power of those words. Which is too bad. Because Lemmy is becoming as hateful as the people they say they fight against.

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                              Things I do know:

                              1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
                              2. Lemmy doesn't like you

                              Things I don't "know":

                              1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

                              Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

                              I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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                                You were confused with the fediverse's biggest asshole by accident? LOL, you went from "it's their community" to "they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me." You are a side show and a half.

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                                To make my point. I posted a science article to lemmy.world c/science ([email protected]) just now.

                                It's from phys.org.

                                Non-political. Good legit article. About dinosaur findings. The article: https://phys.org/news/2025-04-air-pockets-bones-alvarezsauridae-skeleton.html

                                Immediately got 2 downvotes. Within 30 seconds of posting. People downvoted because they don't like my personal politics. Had nothing to do with the article.

                                Not very scientifc-minded, heh? LMAO

                                https://lemmy.today/post/27009051

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                                  Oh I know the "why." Because they don't like conservative points of view. But I'm not changing.

                                  Lemmy is open to everyone, just not necessarily "welcome" to everyone.

                                  But I plan to stay in spite of the drama. So all good.

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                                  I thought the GOP was the party of personal responsibility? But you really think you're blameless in this?

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                                    Things I do know:

                                    1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
                                    2. Lemmy doesn't like you

                                    Things I don't "know":

                                    1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

                                    Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

                                    I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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                                    Fair point. From our conversation I assumed you would have seen that. My fault.

                                    I get why people throw those words around your posts but it’s absolutely not because of your sources.

                                    Yeah, what is something I have said in any of my posts that makes me a nazi or a fascist.

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                                      Things I do know:

                                      1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
                                      2. Lemmy doesn't like you

                                      Things I don't "know":

                                      1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

                                      Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

                                      I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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                                      #119

                                      Things I do know:
                                      Lemmy doesn’t like conservative opinions
                                      Lemmy doesn’t like you

                                      Truth! lmao

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                                        I thought the GOP was the party of personal responsibility? But you really think you're blameless in this?

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                                        I thought the democratic party was the party of inclusion and diversity? But you really think other people are blameless in this?

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                                        • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                                          To make my point. I posted a science article to lemmy.world c/science ([email protected]) just now.

                                          It's from phys.org.

                                          Non-political. Good legit article. About dinosaur findings. The article: https://phys.org/news/2025-04-air-pockets-bones-alvarezsauridae-skeleton.html

                                          Immediately got 2 downvotes. Within 30 seconds of posting. People downvoted because they don't like my personal politics. Had nothing to do with the article.

                                          Not very scientifc-minded, heh? LMAO

                                          https://lemmy.today/post/27009051

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                                          I get the feeling you're putting science as a whole before sociology here. It's self preservation to push those that would damage the herd outside of the herd.

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