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What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?

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    Bully them. The only way to deal with a bully is to show your strength.

    You know how a lot of libs like to police language? That weak and only pisses off bullies. Instead, use their language against them. For example, a decent liberal would never do this but you can do more emotional damage to a maga and make a point they would understand by calling them a ‘regarded fage’ (paraphrasing because that is ban worthy insult in many places online) over and over again than you ever could by using logic against them.

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    Sometimes in wonder if Lemmy is the number 1, social network in Americans highschools.

    Because some of these replies...

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    • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

      Nah, I don't really care THAT much. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of vast majority of Lemmy users. I don't really care one way or the other. I'll continue to post what I want, and I'll continue not taking any of it seriously.

      It's legit like posting Raiders stuff to a Broncos-leaning forum on a site that promises they welcome everyone when they don't. lol

      People being mad makes no difference to my real world at all.

      I'm still retired at 50. I'm still fit and healthy. I still spend awesome days in the park and hiking in the beautiful countryside every morning and evening. Life is awesome, even the Lemmy says the world is gonna end soon. (it won't end anytime soon)

      Go Raiders, by the way. Go Knights. 🙂

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      You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care. Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

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        You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care. Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

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        You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care.

        That's how you read that?!

        Gude, I have no "philosophy" and don't feel "compelled" to do anything. This isn't Star Trek or a legal courtroom. It's fucking Lemmy. lol

        Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

        I'm responding to your comments.

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        • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

          Nope. I was fine with sticking with AP News and Newsweek. But you all called me a Nazi. For posting AP News articles. LMAO

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          Lemmy has thrown around that word so much, it’s losing it meaning.

          Oh christ. This isn't reddit. Stop saying reddit shit.

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            Lemmy has thrown around that word so much, it’s losing it meaning.

            Oh christ. This isn't reddit. Stop saying reddit shit.

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            I stand by what I said.

            And Lemmy is becoming Reddit lately. lmao

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              You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care.

              That's how you read that?!

              Gude, I have no "philosophy" and don't feel "compelled" to do anything. This isn't Star Trek or a legal courtroom. It's fucking Lemmy. lol

              Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

              I'm responding to your comments.

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              So when I stop posting, you'll stop posting? What brings you back to a community (all of Lemmy as you say it) that actively rejects you?

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                So when I stop posting, you'll stop posting? What brings you back to a community (all of Lemmy as you say it) that actively rejects you?

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                So when I stop posting, you’ll stop posting?

                When you stop commenting, I'll stop replying to you. But I won't stop posting.

                What brings you back to a community (all of Lemmy as you say it) that actively rejects you?

                I gotta represent the small minority that pushes against the narrative. Be the change you wanna see, right? 🙂

                You keep hating. I'll keep posting in spite of the hating. All good, yes?

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                  So when I stop posting, you’ll stop posting?

                  When you stop commenting, I'll stop replying to you. But I won't stop posting.

                  What brings you back to a community (all of Lemmy as you say it) that actively rejects you?

                  I gotta represent the small minority that pushes against the narrative. Be the change you wanna see, right? 🙂

                  You keep hating. I'll keep posting in spite of the hating. All good, yes?

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                  No skin off my nose that you're a masochist.

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                    I stand by what I said.

                    And Lemmy is becoming Reddit lately. lmao

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                    And Lemmy is becoming Reddit lately. lmao

                    nazi digg can keep their nazis.

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                      And Lemmy is becoming Reddit lately. lmao

                      nazi digg can keep their nazis.

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                      Where are the nazis on Digg and Reddit? I don't see them.

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                        No skin off my nose that you're a masochist.

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                        No skin off my nose that you’re a masochist.

                        Good. Because I'm not a masochist. Like I said, I don't take Lemmy seriously. But you seem to. You good?

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                          Where are the nazis on Digg and Reddit? I don't see them.

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                          Oh, fuck off with this ridiculous lie.

                          Reddit coddles nazis. Then they get to lemmy and expect the same treatment.

                          Then they whine that they get called nazis for posting nazi shit.

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                            Oh, fuck off with this ridiculous lie.

                            Reddit coddles nazis. Then they get to lemmy and expect the same treatment.

                            Then they whine that they get called nazis for posting nazi shit.

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                            Reddit coddles nazis.

                            I disagree. but anyhow, we aren't Reddit yet. so relax.

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                              Reddit coddles nazis.

                              I disagree. but anyhow, we aren't Reddit yet. so relax.

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                              No. You know reddit is full of nazis.

                              And you want that for lemmy. Which is why you spam nazi shit like brietbart.

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                                No. You know reddit is full of nazis.

                                And you want that for lemmy. Which is why you spam nazi shit like brietbart.

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                                None of what you are saying is true. lol

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                                  Bully them. The only way to deal with a bully is to show your strength.

                                  You know how a lot of libs like to police language? That weak and only pisses off bullies. Instead, use their language against them. For example, a decent liberal would never do this but you can do more emotional damage to a maga and make a point they would understand by calling them a ‘regarded fage’ (paraphrasing because that is ban worthy insult in many places online) over and over again than you ever could by using logic against them.

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                                  You sound pampered and pompous to me.

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                                    None of what you are saying is true. lol

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                                    Ok, reddit also has bots in addition to the nazis.

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                                      No, their politics are unwanted. That’s a huge difference, it’s absurd to treat them as equal.

                                      So because someones politics are different than yours, they shouldn't be treated as equal. Hmmmm..

                                      Now image a republican saying that about democrats. Imagine your outrage. LMAO

                                      See, regardless of what Lemmy says, not every republican is a Nazi. This is why you all lost the election. Because you don't account for how many different kinds of republicans there are.

                                      And you'll lose the next one if ya don't wake up.

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                                      So because someones politics are different than yours

                                      No.

                                      Stopped reading there. If you're just going to invent strawman arguments no-one said, instead of trying to read and reply to what I wrote, why even talk with you?

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                                        So because someones politics are different than yours

                                        No.

                                        Stopped reading there. If you're just going to invent strawman arguments no-one said, instead of trying to read and reply to what I wrote, why even talk with you?

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                                        Guy, you literally said: "No, their politics are unwanted."

                                        Which means they are different than yours. I mean, hey you are free to stop reading. Def nothing says we have to have a conversation.

                                        But unwanted politics means they are different than yours. Not sure why you found that so controversial.

                                        I'm not gonna change your mind. You're not gonna change my mind. And that's ok. Carry on your way, and I'll go mine.

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                                          Guy, you literally said: "No, their politics are unwanted."

                                          Which means they are different than yours. I mean, hey you are free to stop reading. Def nothing says we have to have a conversation.

                                          But unwanted politics means they are different than yours. Not sure why you found that so controversial.

                                          I'm not gonna change your mind. You're not gonna change my mind. And that's ok. Carry on your way, and I'll go mine.

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                                          Looking back, I didn't realize what I said could have been misinterpreted, if one isolated it from the next paragraphs. Sorry for the snappy response.

                                          [conservatives] are un-desired…ala undesirable.
                                          

                                          No, their politics are unwanted. That’s a huge difference, it’s absurd to treat them as equal.

                                          To clarify, and as discussed in that following paragraphs, I'm saying it's absurd to treat someone's politics being unwanted as equal to someone themselves being considered unwanted.


                                          What I found so controversial was that your post misframed my position as if I thought people should be treated differently simply because their politics are different. That's not true. My politics are different to a M-L's, and to an anarchist, and I get along alright with them. No, my problem isn't that people have different ideas, my problem is that bigots and the like (many call themselves 'conservatives') aim to have innocent people oppressed and killed through their political beliefs and actions. Politics isn't some civil abstract philosophical discussion. Politics isn't distinct from material reality. It's not harmless and innocent to just have a political position. When a neo-Nazi org tries to spread their propaganda in public (yes, there are people in my city who try this. and yes, I mean "quotes the NSDAP and means it" neo-Nazi), they aren't simply just expressing an idea, this isn't some isolated discussion in a vacuum, they're attempting to build a political movement that promises to get my friends, co-workers, and a whole bunch of my community killed just for how they were born. And we have a duty to protect the people we care about from being killed by fascists.

                                          So when we "ban" that Nazi from feeling safe to express those politics in public, it's not because we're 'triggered' that they dared to have different politics, we're responding appropriately to a credible, albeit not imminent, threat. Same with the non-nazi bigotry regularly seen among self-proclaimed "conservatives", it's people trying to make others excluded from society based on how they were born. That's a threat to our safety.

                                          So, again, like I said before, it's absurd to equivocate people being banned for posting bigotry and reactionary ideologies, to people being considered "an undesirable", a subhuman.


                                          Now image a republican saying that about democrats. Imagine your outrage. LMAO

                                          I couldn't care less - I hope Biden and Kamala get shot alongside Trump and Vance. ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

                                          See, [...] not every republican is a Nazi.

                                          Obviously. The US electoral system is undemocratic garbage and which party people identify with isn't an indication of their political worldview - the Democrats are repulsive and harmful to the social justice movements they pretend to campaign for, I can't blame anyone for opposing them. There is no good or even adequate option until you get into the minor parties, who most probably don't know much about.

                                          But, the party leadership has plenty of people who, for all intents and purposes, mirror the policies and tactics of the NSDAP circa 1933. They even managed to get the ultranationalism started (see Canada, Greenland). Nazi is an appropriate label for them, including Trump and Musk, to be clear.

                                          If one wants to say all the supporters and footsoldiers aren't Nazis because they're too ignorant to understand what they're supporting or think it's the lesser evil, I say it's pointless semantics. The minority of Germans who voted for the NSDAP pre-takeover are known to history as Nazis. The Wehrmacht who "fought for their country" instead of fighting their government are known to history as "Nazi soldiers". Complicity is not innocent, people were hanged for "just following orders". So, if you're not a Nazi (and I don't think you are one) you're going to have to make your actions speak.

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