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What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?

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  • E [email protected]

    nazis are not welcome here.

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    Good thing I'm not a nazi then.

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    • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

      So there are no liberal incels?!

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      #83

      Looks like I touched a nerve.

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      • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

        Good thing I'm not a nazi then.

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        Hope you're doing your part to make nazis feel unwelcome.

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        • E [email protected]

          Hope you're doing your part to make nazis feel unwelcome.

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          I don't know any nazis, but I've never condoned nor would I ever condone them. Are you around a bunch of nazis? Where do you live?!

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            Looks like I touched a nerve.

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            You haven't touched a nerve at all. I simply replied to your question. Is replying to a question or comment "touching a nerve"?!

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              You haven't touched a nerve at all. I simply replied to your question. Is replying to a question or comment "touching a nerve"?!

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              You haven’t touched a nerve at all. I simply replied to your question.

              If you say so.

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                You haven’t touched a nerve at all. I simply replied to your question.

                If you say so.

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                Correct, I do say so. Looks like I touched a nerve with my reply to you. We cool?

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                • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                  I don't know any nazis, but I've never condoned nor would I ever condone them. Are you around a bunch of nazis? Where do you live?!

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                  #89

                  I don’t know any nazis, but I’ve never condoned nor would I ever condone them.

                  Sure. Let's go with that.

                  Are you around a bunch of nazis? Where do you live?!

                  Not anymore. I left reddit. I don't want lemmy becoming like reddit.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                    I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                    #90

                    There's a lot of other good suggestions here, so I'll just ask, what outcome are you hoping to achieve?

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                    • E [email protected]

                      I don’t know any nazis, but I’ve never condoned nor would I ever condone them.

                      Sure. Let's go with that.

                      Are you around a bunch of nazis? Where do you live?!

                      Not anymore. I left reddit. I don't want lemmy becoming like reddit.

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                      #91

                      Good for you! I haven't come across any Nazis here yet. Thanks for the warning.

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                        There's a lot of other good suggestions here, so I'll just ask, what outcome are you hoping to achieve?

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                        My conscience. assuaged.

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                          My conscience. assuaged.

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                          #93

                          If that's the case, I'd recommend treating them like spam: reply and you'll get a lot more.

                          Mostly, it's a huge emotional and time investment if you want to change someone's behavior and from what I gather, it's a one on one type of thing and really hard. If you want to stop them from interacting negatively with others, your best action would be to report them.

                          If you're upset and want to vent, then engaging will be fun for a while, but mostly futile in terms of behaviour adjustments.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                            I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                            #94

                            I tend to not reply because that will just draw more attention to them. I will post a separate top level comment rebutting their statements without referring to them.

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                            • farraigeplaisteach@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              I tend to not reply because that will just draw more attention to them. I will post a separate top level comment rebutting their statements without referring to them.

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                              That's a good strategy, thanks.

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                                If that's the case, I'd recommend treating them like spam: reply and you'll get a lot more.

                                Mostly, it's a huge emotional and time investment if you want to change someone's behavior and from what I gather, it's a one on one type of thing and really hard. If you want to stop them from interacting negatively with others, your best action would be to report them.

                                If you're upset and want to vent, then engaging will be fun for a while, but mostly futile in terms of behaviour adjustments.

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                                If I respond, it's mostly for the 'audience'. I used to argue on r/libertarian or r/conservative, not to change the other person's mind, but to add a different opinion to the thread. I doubt I ever convinced the other person of anything, but hope I got other people to think a bit more about some of the policies being advocated for.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                                  I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                                  Ignore them, then vote accordingly. Nothing you or I say will have any effect

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                                  • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                                    are trying to exclude peoples they consider undesirables

                                    Which is exactly what you and Lemmy are doing by saying conservatives are not welcome here. They are un-desired..ala undesirable. Can't you see the irony of what you are saying?!

                                    Take what you wrote and switch the words around. Change all the liberal words to Repubiclan. Then stand back and read it. Def sounds EXACTLY like how you all assume republicans talk and exclude.

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                                    They are un-desired…ala undesirable.

                                    No, their politics are unwanted. That's a huge difference, it's absurd to treat them as equal.

                                    When I used the term 'undesirables', I didn't mean literally 'not desired'. I meant it in the context that reactionaries like NSDAP (Nazi Germany) and their modern fans use it - it referred to peoples like Slavs, Romani, Jews, black peoples, people with disabilities, homosexuals and ideological opponents, and more^[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany, introduction, paragraph 3 and more]. People, just because of their lineage, were considered subhuman (Untermensch) and sent to be deported or exterminated. And it's absolutely applicable to the section of modern US conservatives (including their national leaders) who are currently embracing similar oppression of selected races and conditions. That's the allusion I was making with the borrowed term 'undersirables', not just a person who is being offensive, starting fights and told to leave.

                                    Identifying politically is a choice. One can refine their political positions, or even just be diplomatic and respectful, at any time, by choice. It's very easy.

                                    Being identified as a race, sex, or other similar category, is not a choice. So if you feel excluded because you named your account after two racist cunts and openly identify as 'conservative' in an anti-racist space, that's something you can easily choose not to do if you actually want to be included. Don't expect us to take you seriously when you compare that to the Republic party's form of exclusion, oppressing people for how they were born, not how they choose to act in a society.

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                                    • donaldjmusk@lemmy.todayD [email protected]

                                      I have never expected people to immediately agree with me or applaud. But diversity of opinion and thought is supposed the be the cornerstone of Democratic values. But it's not. Not at all. I have seen more bullying and hate in the name of Democratic values here on Lemmy than anywhere else in my entire life. LMAO

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                                      I have seen more bullying and hate in the name of Democratic values

                                      I doubt you would see that unless you were opposing Democratic values. Shit, you should see what happens if you suggest there should be living Palestinians.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                                        I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                                        Doxx them.

                                        What, that isn't allowed? Well neither is white supremacist hate speech. Fuck that trash.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          I have seen more bullying and hate in the name of Democratic values

                                          I doubt you would see that unless you were opposing Democratic values. Shit, you should see what happens if you suggest there should be living Palestinians.

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                                          I doubt you would see that unless you were opposing Democratic values.

                                          Like what? Because friend, basically I would post an AP News article, and then get called a Nazi and told that I should be banned from the fediverse. My post history is public, see for yourself. lol

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