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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • P [email protected]

    I would happily pay for yt premium, if that also meant that google does not violate my privacy and sell my data.

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    #133

    That’s my problem, you have to be logged in if you pay and that’s just more data for them to suck up.
    I watch not logged in. If I want to comment I use a different device.

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    • D [email protected]

      YT's blocked on it. Fuck you, Google.

      https://github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android/issues/2351

      If Google's going to be further tightening YT to the degree where they might roll out DRM platform-wide as opposed to just limiting it to movies on the platform, I'm about to seriously start looking for stuff to watch on PeerTube because YT is not long for the world and will probably start pushing away anything that isn't AI slop at some point in terms of content.

      UPDATE: A workaround has been released for this issue.

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      #134

      Does grayjay rehost content from YouTube or are they using the YouTube backend for streaming video?
      I would be quite annoyed if anyone used my website as a host for content that's being consumed on another website.

      A few years ago (and to a lesser degree nowadays) you occasionally came across images which wouldn't work if you "hotlinked" to them on another website. Images aren't a huge deal anymore but video absolutely is.

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      • B [email protected]

        I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.

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        #135

        I would prefer a model that does not demand infinite growth, leading to ever declining quality and services. I would prefer a tech site that’s satisfied bringing in a comfortable and steady flow of profit.

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          Just Americans?

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          Nestlé: I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.

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          • sinkinglotus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            I'd sooner spend five minutes waiting for the video to buffer than five seconds watching an ad

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            Welcome back to 2007

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            • S [email protected]

              Lemme know if they ever reply.

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              #138

              Yes they did! See right above or direct link https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19270078

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              • B [email protected]

                www.youtube.com/##.paper-toast-open.yt-notification-action-renderer.style-scope.toast-button

                I believe it was this one, just add it as part of the filter list in ublock

                The extension I used for user agent was this one. I don't think it matters what you spoof as, but I chose to spoof as chrome.
                https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/

                So far it worked and I'm back to no ads and no interruptions

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                #139

                Thanks, I'll have a look at this later and I'm sure it'll prove useful for everyone!

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                • redeyeflightcontrol@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  Ok, so there are hosted instances? At face value this looks like you need to self host. Which I am more than capable of both in terms of equipment and experience. I just don't want to go that far to watch youtube. Thanks for explaining.

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                  #140

                  not many but there are

                  https://docs.invidious.io/instances/

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                  • S [email protected]

                    What they had like 10 years ago a couple ads here and there. Not 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutess ad.

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                    #141

                    Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.

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                      I would prefer a model that does not demand infinite growth, leading to ever declining quality and services. I would prefer a tech site that’s satisfied bringing in a comfortable and steady flow of profit.

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                      All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        YT's blocked on it.

                        Just tried it. It works.

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                        Workaround got released, that same issue just updated itself to indicate that. Still shitty of Google to be going full Reddit like this though.

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                          Does grayjay rehost content from YouTube or are they using the YouTube backend for streaming video?
                          I would be quite annoyed if anyone used my website as a host for content that's being consumed on another website.

                          A few years ago (and to a lesser degree nowadays) you occasionally came across images which wouldn't work if you "hotlinked" to them on another website. Images aren't a huge deal anymore but video absolutely is.

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                          They don't host anything, they're just an alternate front-end that lets you download stuff.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.

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                            Oh, uh, pass.

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                              So it's wait a few seconds and watch a black screen or watch a minute of ads? What a choice...

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                                #147

                                Yo I pay for premium and it’s been fucking slow. Cancel my subscription? Guess I might need to.

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                                  Nestlé: I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.

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                                  OTOH, Danone is a B corporation, so there are choices in that space.

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                                    Down with google

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.

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                                      There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I'd pay for it.

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                                      • O [email protected]

                                        As much as I hate dealing with their shenanigans, I can’t really blame them either. As long as I can get away with using an adblocker, I will - but honestly, YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for. I have no moral argument for why YouTube should let me watch videos for free, even though I like free stuff just as much as the next guy.

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                                        How about: they're a major factor in the rise of post truth and in ruining the Internet. And in hacking democracy itself

                                        Their control is endangering the human race. They've crushed countless innovations to keep a stranglehold on technology. They proactively helped fascists get into power

                                        They don't deserve to make ever increasing money off us. They're not content creators - they're bad stewards of a public forum they bought and expanded through monopolistic practices.

                                        I'd say it's not only moral to deny them ad revenue, I think watching their ads is a danger to society

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          That's true but I wouldn't really classify this as evil.

                                          Serving videos isn't easy or cheap. It's hard and expensive.

                                          I obviously use an adblocker everywhere and so should you.

                                          But saying that Google or anyone else is doing anything wrong by blocking adblockers is ridiculous. When they finally succeed, I will just accept that I finally lost after many many years. My usage of YouTube will likely go down substantially as well.
                                          Crying about it after you have used their service for free for YEARS, really makes no sense.

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                                          You're right, but also They get alot more from the deal than you acknowledge. The service has never been free. They already had a profitable model, and now they want even more. I call it evil, but in a sense it’s standard corporate behaviour.

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