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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • B [email protected]

    All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.

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    #145

    Oh, uh, pass.

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      So it's wait a few seconds and watch a black screen or watch a minute of ads? What a choice...

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        Yo I pay for premium and it’s been fucking slow. Cancel my subscription? Guess I might need to.

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          Nestlé: I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.

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          OTOH, Danone is a B corporation, so there are choices in that space.

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            #149

            Down with google

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            • B [email protected]

              I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.

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              There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I'd pay for it.

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              • O [email protected]

                As much as I hate dealing with their shenanigans, I can’t really blame them either. As long as I can get away with using an adblocker, I will - but honestly, YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for. I have no moral argument for why YouTube should let me watch videos for free, even though I like free stuff just as much as the next guy.

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                How about: they're a major factor in the rise of post truth and in ruining the Internet. And in hacking democracy itself

                Their control is endangering the human race. They've crushed countless innovations to keep a stranglehold on technology. They proactively helped fascists get into power

                They don't deserve to make ever increasing money off us. They're not content creators - they're bad stewards of a public forum they bought and expanded through monopolistic practices.

                I'd say it's not only moral to deny them ad revenue, I think watching their ads is a danger to society

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                • L [email protected]

                  That's true but I wouldn't really classify this as evil.

                  Serving videos isn't easy or cheap. It's hard and expensive.

                  I obviously use an adblocker everywhere and so should you.

                  But saying that Google or anyone else is doing anything wrong by blocking adblockers is ridiculous. When they finally succeed, I will just accept that I finally lost after many many years. My usage of YouTube will likely go down substantially as well.
                  Crying about it after you have used their service for free for YEARS, really makes no sense.

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                  You're right, but also They get alot more from the deal than you acknowledge. The service has never been free. They already had a profitable model, and now they want even more. I call it evil, but in a sense it’s standard corporate behaviour.

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                    #153

                    Revanced is fine so far

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                    • redeyeflightcontrol@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      Yeah they are, I noticed it get really, really bad this week. It's an awful experience. But they'll leave my browser before my adblocker does.

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                      Same. When I opened the Stats for Nerds pop-up, I noticed that I was being throttled to 1500kbps. Anything above 720p was unplayable this week.

                      But apparently the Ublock Origin devs yet again figured out another workaround, because streaming speeds are back to normal for me as of yesterday.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        This is the way.

                        When YouTube wanted to throw me some entertainment and a couple ads, very conveniently, I was down for that.

                        Now that it's an all out technology knowledge battle - well, I'm quite good at that.

                        So I spend the time I would have laughed at their ad instead working around their bullshit.

                        I haven't seen an ad in years, but I still enjoy the same content. 🤷‍♀️

                        To me, it seems like they're working really hard, just to fail to serve me ads.

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                        #155

                        I would but my issue with that is that SponsorBlock doesn't work on downloaded videos.

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                        • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                          try to get a ssd from somewhere, that gives devices like yours a second life (and if you switch to linux it gets even smoother - sorry i couldn't resist)

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                          I'm running ZorinOS on an SSD.

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                          • L [email protected]

                            I'm running ZorinOS on an SSD.

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                            damn, your description reminded me of my experience with laptops running off a 5k rpm hdd using windows 8. sorry for assuming.

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                              Yo I pay for premium and it’s been fucking slow. Cancel my subscription? Guess I might need to.

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                              I had to turn off privacy badger and ublock for it to not be slow. It's stupid I'm paying for the service to be ad free it should be ad free without complaints.

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                              • reygle@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                Then I suppose it's a good thing they're limiting non-premium users from using the "high bitrate" quality options?

                                ^ that was sarcasm. HARSH sarcasm. With both middle fingers pointing toward a Google logo and spitting.

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                                yeah I had some blender visuals I made that only look good high quality because of the detail and it looks sick as my desktop wallpaper with hidamsri but horrible and blurry viewing it on youtube at the highest quality

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  There are HDMI splitter boxes you can get from China that conveniently strip out the HDCP.

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                                  strip out the HDCP

                                  Interesting, I had figured that was possible in principle but hadn't kept up with what was actually around.

                                  But still, the HDCP stream is decompressed video, so if you want to save it, you'll have to either put it through yet another layer or lossy compression, or burn a ridiculous amount of disk space compared to the compressed stream that Youtube sent to your computer.

                                  We'll see how things go. Google in the past has made occasional modest gestures to get in the way of downloading, but they haven't made serious effort to prevent it. Who knows whether that will last.

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                                    Revanced is fine so far

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                                    Can confirm.

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      www.youtube.com/##.paper-toast-open.yt-notification-action-renderer.style-scope.toast-button

                                      I believe it was this one, just add it as part of the filter list in ublock

                                      The extension I used for user agent was this one. I don't think it matters what you spoof as, but I chose to spoof as chrome.
                                      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/

                                      So far it worked and I'm back to no ads and no interruptions

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                                      Okay, I am trying to add it. Just copy your YouTube stuff -> go to myFilters -> paste?

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                                        I'm finding I'm using youtube less and less that I can't actually remember the last time I used it for anything. Youtube has so much crap now.

                                        Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.

                                        I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no "plan b".

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          My wife and I were discussing this. This isnt "slow" to us, its just a tiny bit inconvenient. We were used to the old AOL pictures taking a good minute or two to load.

                                          We would get rid of Youtube before we get ads.

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                                          Ahh seeing images load line-by-line and you get excited as you can actually start to tell what the image is!

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