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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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  • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

    I use SponsorBlock for more than just skipping sponsored segments. It's also useful for skipping intros, "like and subscribe" messages, and other general annoyances in most YouTube videos. Once you get used to it, you can't go without.

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    #188

    Same here. The SponsorBlock in SkyTube skips intros and "like and subscribe", too. Even in downloads.

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      Same here. The SponsorBlock in SkyTube skips intros and "like and subscribe", too. Even in downloads.

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      Good to know, thanks.

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        That's true but I wouldn't really classify this as evil.

        Serving videos isn't easy or cheap. It's hard and expensive.

        I obviously use an adblocker everywhere and so should you.

        But saying that Google or anyone else is doing anything wrong by blocking adblockers is ridiculous. When they finally succeed, I will just accept that I finally lost after many many years. My usage of YouTube will likely go down substantially as well.
        Crying about it after you have used their service for free for YEARS, really makes no sense.

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        They can get fucked. A while ago O was like you know what let's give them money, seems only fair. So I finally subscribed, and then like a month later they sent me an email they're raising the prices effective immediately - basically changing the deal on me without any delay.

        So I unsubscribed, because fuck that.

        More recently I looked into sharing the family plan with ...my family, but it turna out they consider family only in a single household, and I'm not gonna try to give them money while also potentially having to prove how much of a family we are, so yeah...

        Fuck them, either take my money when I'm actually trying, or I guess they didn't need it that bad. I'm over YouTube, and would probably ditch it earlier than ever watching an ad there.

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          Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.

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          I'm fine with reasonable ads. Plex Live TV has ads that don't always get caught by NextDNS for me and it's always some local business and like 30 seconds, NBD it's a free service and needs to operate somehow and I'm not aware of any major privacy breaches from Plex. I feel the same way about YT video sponsor segments, they don't always get caught by ReVanced, also, NBD the creator also needs to get paid for their work.

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            https://invidious.io/

            it's like lemmy: you choose an instance, make an account, import your subscriptions from YouTube and done. you can watch all channels from there

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            Sadly, most of the instances seem to be completely nonfunctional. Nadeko.net seemed to be the only one working for months.

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              Sadly, most of the instances seem to be completely nonfunctional. Nadeko.net seemed to be the only one working for months.

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              #193

              yehh it's been a while since i used it and my instance seems to be down too...

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                Pass on what? Using YouTube at all?

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                #194

                Pass on sticking within the bounds of treason and tyranny. I'm gonna keep idealizing beyond that.

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                  Why aren't you using another platform?

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                  #195

                  Because I don't watch random videos, I watch people I'm subscribed to and they don't exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I'm on Lemmy tells you that I'm open to doing that kind of thing.

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                    #196

                    I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                    Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                      Because I don't watch random videos, I watch people I'm subscribed to and they don't exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I'm on Lemmy tells you that I'm open to doing that kind of thing.

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                      #197

                      If the people you subscribe to are not ones who monetization is important you may want to consider reaching out to them and asking if they'd consider cross posting to PeerTube or another YouTube alternative. They may appreciate not putting all their eggs in one basket and reaching new potential fans.

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                        I'm fine with reasonable ads. Plex Live TV has ads that don't always get caught by NextDNS for me and it's always some local business and like 30 seconds, NBD it's a free service and needs to operate somehow and I'm not aware of any major privacy breaches from Plex. I feel the same way about YT video sponsor segments, they don't always get caught by ReVanced, also, NBD the creator also needs to get paid for their work.

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                        Thanks for your thoughtful response!

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                          Pass on sticking within the bounds of treason and tyranny. I'm gonna keep idealizing beyond that.

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                          No shit. The question is just about the current system. Your answer is like saying “How should we implement universal healthcare while capitalism still exists?” “Pass”. It doesn’t make sense.

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                          • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                            I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                            Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                            Yeah, I run multiple ad-blockers and haven't noticed any slowdown or other degradation.

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                              #201

                              Remember when videos would buffer all the time on non-chrome browsers lol

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                                Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.

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                                I remember a time when ads were loud, obnoxious and popped out. So I'm fine with minimal sidebar and an ad at the start middle if the video was long enough and at the end.

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                                • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                  I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                                  Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                                  Still I prefer buffering over the inane noises of commercials

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                                  • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                    I've noticed occasional "buffering" before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn't been worse than that so far, knock on wood.

                                    Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It's basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google's bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.

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                                    #204

                                    Peertube is working on breaking the monopoly. I try to use it more.

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                                      Ahh seeing images load line-by-line and you get excited as you can actually start to tell what the image is!

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                                      "Finally, a nipple!"

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                                        Freetube works pretty well, there's a cat and mouse game with youtube changes though.

                                        https://freetubeapp.io/

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          I'm finding I'm using youtube less and less that I can't actually remember the last time I used it for anything. Youtube has so much crap now.

                                          Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.

                                          I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no "plan b".

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                                          I think that says more about the channels you watch and your viewing habits. I enjoy STEM and STEM related channels; I don't experience the same as what you've described.

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